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TNT : Overcharged BETA Big Update

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5 hours ago, BeeWen said:

The problem is not in the port version. The doll should go after the first sector, which goes down after the take of shotgun. If the ball does not take, the doll does not go further.

I dont have the problem what u say. I test the map a lot of times and never have that problem. 

 

Edit: i found the linedef with the problem 

And the problem with the map 14 i m thinking how to do "redundant" the sequence before the spider mastermind fight if the player do backtrack (or fight like a chicken XD ). 

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Going to give this a try because I always liked TNT in a spiritual endeavor. In gameplay endeavor for OG TNT it gets laughable sometimes, but much of that was intended.

 

And then I played this.... I played Map 01 and the Beginning of map 02. A+ for level design , D- for gameplay balance. 

 

Map 01. Really cool layout. Too bad there is no way to get the Soulsphere Secret and SSG secret without JUMPING. Like WTH ? My tactic when test playing is use Limit Removing tactics and then search for the secret the vanilla way afterward. THere is no working teleporters that can be found by wall humping, at least that I tried to get those 2 secrets.

 

 Map 02- I'm fine with fighting Archviles. I'm fine with fighting ARchviles in small rooms with tiny cover Hell In Space Megawad is full of nasty slaughterfest type evil traps that are hard but not impossible. The beginning of this map of TNTO falls into the category of  "I'm just turning the game off".

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40 minutes ago, kalensar said:

Going to give this a try because I always liked TNT in a spiritual endeavor. In gameplay endeavor for OG TNT it gets laughable sometimes, but much of that was intended.

 

And then I played this.... I played Map 01 and the Beginning of map 02. A+ for level design , D- for gameplay balance. 

 

Map 01. Really cool layout. Too bad there is no way to get the Soulsphere Secret and SSG secret without JUMPING. Like WTH ? My tactic when test playing is use Limit Removing tactics and then search for the secret the vanilla way afterward. THere is no working teleporters that can be found by wall humping, at least that I tried to get those 2 secrets.

 

 Map 02- I'm fine with fighting Archviles. I'm fine with fighting ARchviles in small rooms with tiny cover Hell In Space Megawad is full of nasty slaughterfest type evil traps that are hard but not impossible. The beginning of this map of TNTO falls into the category of  "I'm just turning the game off".

 

 

IDK, maybe u need put more atention to the layout and find the secrets.

 

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And for the gameplay balance hmmm, i need be honest, i never say the wad will have the same dificult of original TNT , is more i want a hard version of TNT like PL2 with PL. BUUUUT i have on my "to do List" add the dificulty levels because until today i dont do that (XD i have little time to work on this wad because i m a datacenter Admin on a IT Enterprise) when i finish the Map 20 (the last episode 2  map) maybe i will do the dificulty levels for more "casual" players. And i need do the art work for the splash screen -.- , a lot of work to do XD 

 

Oh that remember me , i m gonna update the Wad File Rn with the map 19 

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Just pistol started map 02 and loved that first fight with the AV.  It's unexpected and a different usage of the monster that we don't normally see, and it's really not that hard IMO, it just requires a little bit of figuring out.  I ran past into the next room and took out the two revenants first and then taking out the AV was fairly easy.  The rest of the map looks pretty good too.  Got to the return trip after getting the red key and got taken out by a revenant fireball when I wasn't paying attention.  Seems like this is going to be a pretty good wad to me.  

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1 hour ago, Veemon said:

 

 

IDK, maybe u need put more atention to the layout and find the secrets.

 

ezgif-2-e7950ea455ef.gif.0c6be7857d519ff893889f0e5061ad3e.gif

 

And for the gameplay balance hmmm, i need be honest, i never say the wad will have the same dificult of original TNT , is more i want a hard version of TNT like PL2 with PL. BUUUUT i have on my "to do List" add the dificulty levels because until today i dont do that (XD i have little time to work on this wad because i m a datacenter Admin on a IT Enterprise) when i finish the Map 20 (the last episode 2  map) maybe i will do the dificulty levels for more "casual" players. And i need do the art work for the splash screen -.- , a lot of work to do XD 

 

Oh that remember me , i m gonna update the Wad File Rn with the map 19 

 

My post wasn't meant to be too mean. My opinion is if you don't have any complaint's over your mod or map projects then the testers weren't doing a very good job on the beta run here.

 

But yeah, on the secrets of Map01, those were a bit too cryptic. Those wall computer panel textures are basically never used for anything by anybody, and the pillar teleporter literally had nothing special about it. I'm just telling the reasons why they didn't get clicked by me. 

 

On a side note, every good doom map that was meant to be played vanilla is just as hard while playing as limit. Doom 2 and Final Dooms both hold their own quite well when played in a limit removed fashion. The difficulty of a good Doom map doesn't go down the drain when Limit Removing is used, in fact it's kicked my arse even more so and made some maps even harder.

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52 minutes ago, kalensar said:

 

My post wasn't meant to be too mean. My opinion is if you don't have any complaint's over your mod or map projects then the testers weren't doing a very good job on the beta run here.

 

But yeah, on the secrets of Map01, those were a bit too cryptic. Those wall computer panel textures are basically never used for anything by anybody, and the pillar teleporter literally had nothing special about it. I'm just telling the reasons why they didn't get clicked by me. 

 

On a side note, every good doom map that was meant to be played vanilla is just as hard while playing as limit. Doom 2 and Final Dooms both hold their own quite well when played in a limit removed fashion. The difficulty of a good Doom map doesn't go down the drain when Limit Removing is used, in fact it's kicked my arse even more so and made some maps even harder.

 

I cant Agree with u with the secrets, the pillar had a unique texture by the side of the teleport (again, look closely the level) if something is a bit "odd" go and hump it. 

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Oh hey. Another TNT project. :D It seems more & more TNT custom stuff is getting out to the public.

I'll try this either today or some other day & let you know what I think of it. :)

 

Also tagging @P41R47 since he likes TNT a lot & is happy to see more TNT stuff.

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9 hours ago, Veemon said:

I dont have the problem what u say. I test the map a lot of times and never have that problem. 

 

Edit: i found the linedef with the problem 

And the problem with the map 14 i m thinking how to do "redundant" the sequence before the spider mastermind fight if the player do backtrack (or fight like a chicken XD ). 

Players play in different ways. Limit yourself the space for movement is not a very smart solution and chicken here too much. Especially when the rooms are filled with enemies suddenly and everywhere. Therefore, you need to try to provide for different solutions without breaking the game, which is certainly difficult.

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This actually looks decent from the screenshots I've seen, will have to play this at some point just to see what it's like.

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Coming Soon Boys, i m fixing a tiny bug with PRboom+ in this sequence, and i release the update with the map 20 

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Guys, Map 20 is Done, with another fix to older maps and a tiny Rework of Map 13.

Please, i need ur Feedback, Map 20 maybe is to dificult and need a t Fix in the future, but for that i need ur Feedback plz. 

Episode 2 is finish, i m taking and making ideas for the last part of the proyect, Hell Levels, and the two secret levels. (I have a lot of ideas for Map 31 and 32)

But in general, please test the maps from map 01 to Map 20 . and tell me ur opinion.

The Wad File is updated, the Zip in the Thread and the mirror in google drive are updated until today (09/29/2021)

Like always, thanks for give me feeback and give me a chance to enjoy my Work.

Take a Criying ArchVile like a Gift 

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