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I noticed that the cacodemons shoot the same-looking projectiles as the imps. (Likely to enable some scary new monster shenanigans) Am I right to assume that imps deal normal imp damage and cacos also deal imp damage? Or there are some more complicated things happening behind the scenes?

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54 minutes ago, Azure_Horror said:

Am I right to assume that imps deal normal imp damage and cacos also deal imp damage?

 

AFAIK, imps deal slightly higher and cacodemons deal slightly lower damage here (Both do 4 to 32 damage here). Whereas in vanilla, imps do 3-24 and cacodemons do 5-40 damage.

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On 12/3/2021 at 10:38 AM, Liberation said:

Hey folks, just dropping in a new hotfix for 1k3rc3.wad, this is for GZDoom only and fixes the plasma zombies cell drop pick ups giving the players bullets and not cells.

 

1k3rc3-hotfix.zip

 

Please load it after 1k3rc3.wad.

This isn't working for me; plasma zombies still drop bullets. I'm playing GZDoom 4.7.1 on Kubuntu 20.04, HMP difficulty.

 

Here's my console output:

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connor@blastoff:~$ cd /usr/games
connor@blastoff:/usr/games$ gzdoom -iwad /home/connor/Sync/games/DOOM2.WAD -file /
home/connor/Sync/doom/pwads/1k3rc3/1k3rc3.wad /home/connor/Sync/doom/pwads/1k3rc3-
hotfix/1k3rc3-hotfix.wad -deh /home/connor/Sync/doom/pwads/1k3rc3/1k3rc3.deh
GZDoom g4.7.1 - 2021-10-20 08:18:37 +0200 - SDL version
Compiled on Oct 22 2021

OS: Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS, Linux 5.4.0-90-generic on x86_64
M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults.
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adding /opt/gzdoom/gzdoom.pk3, 666 lumps
adding /opt/gzdoom/game_support.pk3, 2514 lumps
adding /home/connor/Sync/games/DOOM2.WAD, 2919 lumps
adding /opt/gzdoom/game_widescreen_gfx.pk3, 216 lumps
adding /home/connor/Sync/doom/pwads/1k3rc3/1k3rc3.wadWARNING: duplicate S_END mar
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adding /home/connor/Sync/doom/pwads/1k3rc3-hotfix/1k3rc3-hotfix.wad, 2 lumps
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CPU Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
 Name: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx  
 Family 23 (23), Model 17, Stepping 0
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Texman.Init: Init texture manager.
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LoadActors: Load actor definitions.
Script warning, "1k3rc3-hotfix.wad:DECORATE" line 2:
Tried to define class '1K3CellClip' more than once. Renaming class to '1K3CellClip
@1k3rc3-hotfix.wad@DECORATE'                                                       
script parsing took 171.67 ms
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Patch installed
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ParseSBarInfo: Loading custom status bar definition.
D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status.
player 1 of 1 (1 nodes)
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fluidsynth: warning: SDL2 not initialized, SDL2 audio driver won't be usable

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MAP01 - Dust Devils
                                                                                  
fluidsynth: warning: SDL2 not initialized, SDL2 audio driver won't be usable       
Picked up a cell clip.
 

I hope I can play this as intended! The maps are fun and look great, and I want to enjoy it with the gameplay changes intact.

 

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6 hours ago, roasty said:

This isn't working for me; plasma zombies still drop bullets. I'm playing GZDoom 4.7.1 on Kubuntu 20.04, HMP difficulty.

 

I had the same issue. If you're loading the files Drop n' Drag style like I do, I found loading the hotfix in front of everything else does the trick.

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@Dragonfly cheers mate lmao

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BTW does Map17 have difficulty settings implemented? Asking because I just realised that there are same number of monsters (133) on all difficulties.

 

Also I want to say that I am not a fan of how you open the soulsphere secret on that map. I thought there would be a cleverly hidden switch/passage or require some SR50 jumping, but all we have to do is press a random wall near the plasma gun area to open it :|

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Why is it that an game-crashing error appears in Zdoom before the intermission screen is loaded, but everything works fine in GZdoom? I am confused.

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3 hours ago, Firedust said:

Why is it that an game-crashing error appears in Zdoom before the intermission screen is loaded, but everything works fine in GZdoom? I am confused.

 

1k3 has not been tested in ZDoom v2.8.1, which I assume is what you mean. I will take a look later and see what is going on.

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On 12/10/2021 at 9:42 AM, Firedust said:

Why is it that an game-crashing error appears in Zdoom before the intermission screen is loaded, but everything works fine in GZdoom? I am confused.

 

I just tested Zandronum now (to see if the dynamic lights are working fine) and it appears that Zandronum also cannot load the wad. In Zandronum's case, it appears to be ZMAPINFO causing the issue (according to the message at startup screen).

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1 hour ago, ReaperAA said:

 

I just tested Zandronum now (to see if the dynamic lights are working fine) and it appears that Zandronum also cannot load the wad. In Zandronum's case, it appears to be ZMAPINFO causing the issue (according to the message at startup screen).

FYI the same problem is present on 1klines 2

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Loving the WAD, definitely Cacoward material in my book ;)

 

Though, I've noticed something weird while playing in vanilla though: music on maps 3, 4, 21, 24, 28 don't seem to play. Works on all other ports, of course. Just thought I'd bring it up.

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:52 PM, ReaperAA said:

I just tested Zandronum now (to see if the dynamic lights are working fine) and it appears that Zandronum also cannot load the wad. In Zandronum's case, it appears to be ZMAPINFO causing the issue (according to the message at startup screen).

 

Upon commenting out the DoomEdNums section from ZMAPINFO, Zandronum seems load the wad and run the individual maps fine. But when there is the episode end, the game crashes at intermission screen.

 

I tested with both Zandronum 3.0 and 3.1

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I'm not sure but there seems to be something wrong with one of the walkover linedef triggers in Map04. The three revenants behind a concrete wall in this cross shaped area in the middle of the map are unreachable. I looked at it in Doombuilder and it seems the sector they are on is supposed to raise all the way up but it only moves a few inches leaving only their heads exposed. Autoaim doesn't register and so you can't 100% kills in this map right now. Am i missing something?

I tested it with DSDA complevel 2.

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On 12/14/2021 at 2:56 AM, OpenRift said:

Loving the WAD, definitely Cacoward material in my book ;)

 

Though, I've noticed something weird while playing in vanilla though: music on maps 3, 4, 21, 24, 28 don't seem to play. Works on all other ports, of course. Just thought I'd bring it up.

 

This is interesting, sounds like the midi files are too big for vanilla, however I can not recreate this in choc. Will test some more.

 

On 12/14/2021 at 8:14 AM, ReaperAA said:

Upon commenting out the DoomEdNums section from ZMAPINFO, Zandronum seems load the wad and run the individual maps fine. But when there is the episode end, the game crashes at intermission screen.

 

I tested with both Zandronum 3.0 and 3.1

 

1k 3 was not tested in Zandy at all, I guess it is just a syntax difference causing the crash. I will look to fix this up for the idgames release.

 

2 hours ago, Gregor said:

I'm not sure but there seems to be something wrong with one of the walkover linedef triggers in Map04. The three revenants behind a concrete wall in this cross shaped area in the middle of the map are unreachable. I looked at it in Doombuilder and it seems the sector they are on is supposed to raise all the way up but it only moves a few inches leaving only their heads exposed. Autoaim doesn't register and so you can't 100% kills in this map right now. Am i missing something?

I tested it with DSDA complevel 2.

 

Hey, thanks for the report. This has been looked into and is a case of "it works in vanilla, but breaks in other ports" which is kinda the story of 1k3 :-).

Thank you all for the feedback, we will get this lot sorted!

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10 hours ago, Liberation said:

 

This is interesting, sounds like the midi files are too big for vanilla, however I can not recreate this in choc. Will test some more.

Chocolate Doom doesn't emulate the MIDI quirks that vanilla has, surprisingly enough. That's its one inaccuracy.

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So how do you get the BFG secret in Map11? The sector apparently doesn't lower and it's too high for an Arch-Vile jump. I don't get it. Seems impossible.

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On 12/18/2021 at 9:30 AM, OpenRift said:

Chocolate Doom doesn't emulate the MIDI quirks that vanilla has, surprisingly enough. That's its one inaccuracy.

 

This is definitely an issue that should be added to the chocolate doom's github.

 

2 hours ago, Gregor said:

So how do you get the BFG secret in Map11? The sector apparently doesn't lower and it's too high for an Arch-Vile jump. I don't get it. Seems impossible.

 

The BFG secret is very convoluted and I had to look at SLADE to figure it out. Steps to get the BFG secret:

  • Lowering the lift that takes you to the pain elemental + hell knights room also lowers a secret lift with teleporter (on the other side of the map near the cyberdemon area) for a limited time.
  • This teleporter leads to a backpack, a few rockets and a switch. Pressing the switch doesn't lower the BFG sector, but it raises the lift sector that is adjacent to BFG sector to about halfway point.
  • Now when you go through that cyberdemon area and press the switches there, you will notice that the lift sector adjacent to the BFG sector will be at full height.
  • Now you can simply use that lift to get the BFG.

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2 hours ago, ReaperAA said:

The BFG secret is very convoluted and I had to look at SLADE to figure it out. Steps to get the BFG secret:

  • Lowering the lift that takes you to the pain elemental + hell knights room also lowers a secret lift with teleporter (on the other side of the map near the cyberdemon area) for a limited time.
  • This teleporter leads to a backpack, a few rockets and a switch. Pressing the switch doesn't lower the BFG sector, but it raises the lift sector that is adjacent to BFG sector to about halfway point.
  • Now when you go through that cyberdemon area and press the switches there, you will notice that the lift sector adjacent to the BFG sector will be at full height.
  • Now you can simply use that lift to get the BFG.

 

Jeez! That is convoluted. I looked at the map in GZDoomBuilder and still couldn't figure it out. I guess that hidden teleporter could have been a hint for me. But from within the map this secret is nigh on impossible to catch. Thanks for the help! But man, what a tease, with that BFG just sitting there right before all those arch-viles... That's evil, @Aurelius.

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Wow! This has been an amazing was to play through.

 

I played zone 400 recently and found it to be a bit boring with the level design being a tad too restricted. I decided to play this because it was the dwmegawad club nominated wad of the month and it was a pleasant surprise.

 

Feel like I should have played the first two now... 

 

Anyway I'm posting on here instead of the dwmegawad club thread as I wanted to show a few times that I broke the levels.

 

In this level I did a flying jump into this area to see if there was a secret behind the lava fall, and instead fell into the caco pit:

Screenshot_Doom_20211226_123247.png.4898d151c199f7a2c3a290ac65c42c19.png

 

 

In this level there is an invisible barrier stopping you venturing too far out into the lava from the level start position. Later on, if you do a few creative hops off the top, onto the pyramid, and then down from where I'm standing, I got into the lava area, and couldn't get out again because I was blocked by the barrier:

Screenshot_Doom_20211228_003218.png.7bfa981c9349b678abf55c712e676900.png

 

Other than that, it was a great experience to play through!

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