GodKreytr Posted December 6, 2021 i was on a discord server about doom, and they were super annoying, offensive and more (e.g transphobic, homophobic, anti-lgbtq, anti furries and what not) they're also super annoying to deal with, some of them are just so immature to the point where they were probably children, which is highly likely. anyhow, this is godkre signing out. 5 Share this post Link to post
LadyMistDragon Posted December 7, 2021 Encountering blind and stupid hate is something that happens when you spend enough time in most fandoms it seems.Unfortunately, there are some servers where riffraff congregate for varying reasons that can include complete permissiveness or else they're sort of advertised for their opposition to the mainstream doom community, a la Doomer Boards. There are plenty of other communities that don't tolerate the toxicity you're describing though. 9 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted December 7, 2021 Yeah, this just sounds like you stumbled into a server that's full of shitty people. There's plenty of other Doom-based servers out their that aren't full of garbage. 5 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted December 7, 2021 Unmoderated servers become a feedback loop of shittyness as anyone attempting to be productive gives up and leaves. This is universal and not at all unique to Doom. 40 Share this post Link to post
spineapple tea Posted December 7, 2021 Often I see people saying the Doom community "has two jokes" or something to that capacity. What they'll be referring to is stuff like "thə l0nger teh icoom if sin is on marz ythe strinee it beecomes" or "game joornalis duficulty be licke no enimies an infinite hellth and amo" and the like. I always feel the urge to say that's only a portion of the modern Doom community and not the entire franchise's community as a whole but really what good would it do. Most of the time when I see this it's on Twitter anyways. 4 Share this post Link to post
thiccyosh Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Spineapple tea said: What they'll be referring to is stuff like "thə l0nger teh icoom if sin is on marz ythe strinee it beecomes" or "game joornalis duficulty be licke no enimies an infinite hellth and amo" You missed "Haha funny demon killer man leik cute pupper doggo haha rip and tear" 7 Share this post Link to post
Doominator2 Posted December 7, 2021 Because they're kids with internet access, most of the time kids with internet access aren't funny. I know I definitely was no exception, though more on the side of awkward jokes than just straight out being an edgelord. 6 Share this post Link to post
thiccyosh Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, GodKreytr said: they're also super annoying to deal with, some of them are just so immature to the point where they were probably children They are, and that was also the reason why I stopped using Discord. I was on a lot of servers that sadly turned out to be disgustingly racist and really just was a bigger kindergarten for teenagers (As most of them were 14-ish at that time). Just sad. 4 Share this post Link to post
AndrewB Posted December 7, 2021 Which server was this? It sounds like it might be my kind of place. 4 Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted December 7, 2021 Discord in a nutshell. There are all kinds of servers and people. 0 Share this post Link to post
chemo Posted December 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Mr. Freeze said: people in general fixed 0 Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted December 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Edward850 said: Unmoderated servers become a feedback loop of shittyness as anyone attempting to be productive gives up and leaves. I could not have said it better myself. When you own a Discord server, it becomes YOUR responsibility to make sure people behave. 3 Share this post Link to post
Eurisko Posted December 7, 2021 wasn't there a Halos sub reddit recently that got so bad they shut it down? 3 Share this post Link to post
Yumheart Posted December 7, 2021 Can tell from experience that a lot of Doomers are very friendly, chill and open-minded people. Most members are also pretty LGBTQ-supportive (save for a few, but cares about those tbh). A few bad bananas shouldn't spoil the bunch, would encourage to not sign out just yet . w- 4 Share this post Link to post
Bridgeburner56 Posted December 7, 2021 Sounds like you just found a bunch of shitty people. Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay. Also try not to judge entire communities from a single discord server. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. 10 Share this post Link to post
DSC Posted December 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Edward850 said: Unmoderated servers become a feedback loop of shittyness as anyone attempting to be productive gives up and leaves. This is universal and not at all unique to Doom. *cough* REDDIT *cough* 6 Share this post Link to post
Luleta Posted December 7, 2021 it's not really just the new doom community, id say its mostly le dank memer kids xP "*when the doom eternal music kicks in* dudee doom is eternal XD brootal hdoom O_o" when i was younger i did my fair share of unfunny terrible jokes to sound cool and edgy that i now dread. 4 Share this post Link to post
xdarkmasterx Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, GodKreytr said: children There's your answer :p 1 Share this post Link to post
DSC Posted December 7, 2021 On a brighter note, one of the gentlemen above me, @Bridgeburner56, is the owner of an excellent Discord server where none of this nonsense is tolerated: https://discord.gg/x4A9SZBW. Join us and have some actual quality time! 7 Share this post Link to post
Major Arlene Posted December 7, 2021 Yeah, this sounds like the GamerBro (TM) side of Discord/Doom which does not in fact represent most of the Doom community, or even the NuDoom community. There's annoying factions, sure, but as everyone has pointed out, this isn't representative of the whole community and isn't relegated to Doom, or even gaming. 7 Share this post Link to post
Astronomical Posted December 7, 2021 "Wait a second, what do you mean my 2 jokes about game journalists and the icon of sin aren't funny after 2 years of constant repetition" Well at least they got 2 more jokes, because they used to only have 1 joke. Generally most of these communities came into existence after New doom became a pawn in the culture war because people needed a reason to harass journalists beyond girl make game about depression. I doubt that most of them are actually good at the game let alone like doom. 1 Share this post Link to post
Rudolph Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) What I still do not understand is how people can call themselves Doom fans when quite a few openly trans persons have been helping shape the community and even the games. Like, it cannot be like having to overlook the fact that the person who made the games you love (e.g. Doug TenNapel) just so happens to have terrible opinions, right? 2 Share this post Link to post
Vic Posted December 7, 2021 I was a newcomer and got trolled really harshly on ZDoom forums back in 1999 or so, for suggesting to correct a typo in their forum description. Never came back there since then. Some things are just what they are, not necessarily because their are anti-something. I'd even go as far as saying being labelled as anti-LGBTQ is the least of their problems. 2 Share this post Link to post
DJVCardMaster Posted December 7, 2021 Hate is universal and not Doom oriented, unmodded discord servers leave the gates open for opinions that should be kept indoors in respect of other people's opinions that can be threaded by the first ones. 2 Share this post Link to post
Major Arlene Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Vic said: I was a newcomer and got trolled really harshly on ZDoom forums back in 1999 or so This is about where I'll stop you- to be quite fair I don't really go onto the ZDoom forums but I'm sure that they're no longer having the same issues they had back then, judging by their Discord. AFAIK some of the moderation is LGBTQ and their Discord icon has been rainbow far and away past pride month (I'm assuming your last sentence is still referring to ZDoom forums, if not, apologies). the 90's were a way different beast and while it doesn't make what happened to you right, it's probably not a great indicator of how they operate now. I imagine Doomworld may have had some less than optimal threads and trolling back in that as well, as said before about new Doom, it's a product of the greater internet and the time period in which it operates. 2 Share this post Link to post
Vic Posted December 7, 2021 At this stage of my life I couldn't care less about ZDoom forums, but I wish them all the best nonetheless. The point I'm trying to drive across is that certain places are _unfriendly_ in general and susceptible to the circle jerking effect, be it due to the lack of moderation or because moderators themselves are part of the circle. There's always going to be something they don't like about you: your gender, race, the fact that you like your grammar or something else. The best you can do to your mental health is staying away. 2 Share this post Link to post
Rudolph Posted December 7, 2021 Oh crap, I misread the title: I thought we were talking about the Doom community as a whole, not just the Doom 2016/Eternal one. Well, I suppose my point still stands, as Doom would not be where it is today without the contributions of so many trans persons. 1 Share this post Link to post
Bridgeburner56 Posted December 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Vic said: At this stage of my life I couldn't care less about ZDoom forums, but I wish them all the best nonetheless. The point I'm trying to drive across is that certain places are _unfriendly_ in general and susceptible to the circle jerking effect, be it due to the lack of moderation or because moderators themselves are part of the circle. There's always going to be something they don't like about you: your gender, race, the fact that you like your grammar or something else. The best you can do to your mental health is staying away. Good thing there are a far greater quantity of friendly places than not c: 2 Share this post Link to post