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NaZa

The DWIronman League dies to: Return to Hadron E1

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What a thrilling last month! Even though nobody survived the dreaded MAP04, @mhrz was the one who got there the quickest - winning both the Ironman and Ironeagle challenge last month, what domination! Great performance! Also a great return performance by @Dragonfly and quite a high result from @NoisyVelvet to whom results haven't always been kind, with shock DNFs in the history of the league. One such shock DNF happened in another E1 replacement, Double Impact, so hopefully Noisy will want to remedy that this month :) No pressure!

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Command line example and essential info have different complevels in them. I assume the intention is to use Ultimate Doom as the compatability setting.

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5 minutes ago, Rujasu said:

Command line example and essential info have different complevels in them. I assume the intention is to use Ultimate Doom as the compatability setting.

My bad, copied this from 2002: ADO E3 thread which seems to have had that same problem but nobody had brought it up. Thank you. Yes, -complevel 3 is the desired one.

 

14 minutes ago, Bobby "J said:

Hah! Finally a set I'm actually decent at beating!

All the more pressure!

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Awesome pick, Return to Hadron is the best there is for Ultimate Doom. E3 is my favorite, but I'm glad that we're not starting with that, since there's a good chance I wouldn't make it past E3M1.

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Heyyy the Ironman Leaderboard is back! I just noticed. Happy to see that. I'm a sucker for Excel spreadsheets.

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2 hours ago, NaZa said:

quite a high result from @NoisyVelvet to whom results haven't always been kind, with shock DNFs in the history of the league. One such shock DNF happened in another E1 replacement, Double Impact, so hopefully Noisy will want to remedy that this month :) No pressure!

 

1 hour ago, NaZa said:

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All the more pressure!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.  I was doing good for the last few months because I stopped getting in my own head.  Well thanks, NaZa!

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No promises, but if I can, I might take up this challenge. I've played the wad before (and I think I have some UV-Maxes for a couple of the levels), but it's literally been months since I've actually played Doom, so would that be a Prepared [2] run, or am I completely misunderstanding the rules and whatnot?

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It would be a standard category 2 run. You've not actively prepared for the challenge - you've not played the set  after  the challenge was announced. 

Edited by NaZa : clarification

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Double post, but attached you'll find my attempt. Unfortunately didn't make it to the end - the fight I died in I should've survived and had I been a bit more spatially intelligent chances are I would have. Especially with my secret hunting on the previous maps. I don't mind, I survived the previous maps. It's just I've been quite close.

 

Category 2, died on E1M7.

 

dwironman_naza_feb22.zip

 

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Not the cleanest run ever. Had quite incredible luck on a few points in the early maps, and pulled through. M6 I think I've had under control during the entirety, it's one of maybe three maps I've scouted to see if it's suitable for Ironman (scouted = ran through like a headless chicken, didn't attempt to finish the map; the others were M1, of course, and M8). It's difficult, for sure, but I think it's not the most difficult set I've thrown out there. Enjoyed every second of my playthrough, great set. I will be finishing this out-of-Ironman. Anything survived past M6 is a bonus and unfortunately it was a big fat ZERO. More content with my death than in ROS, however. I've noticed both the demons and cacodemons closing up on me, but I underestimated how quickly they'll be able to do so. Oh well. Shit happens. At least I get to be first for a few minutes or hours.

 

Edited by NaZa : antonym instead of synonym lmao

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Category 2, survived in 1:10:36.

 

Way better than my expectations, from what I dimly remembered from playing a few years ago I was almost 100% sure I'd be dead on E1M6 at best. Maybe I got better at the game since then or maybe I just got lucky, who knows. Anyway, good pick, I think this was one of the first ultimate doom pwads I ever played and it's still at least as fun as I remembered.

 

dwim-bx-hadron.lmp

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Got pretty far in this run (though had a very close call at one point because crushers after grabbing a key + baron that appears in front of you = Panic!).

 

Then...I hit E1M6.  When I realized there was 240+ monsters and no monsters actually in the level besides the two that get blown up by barrels at the start, I knew I was going to get my ass kicked the moment I find what causes enemies to teleport in.  After grabbing the first key, my prediction came true within a minute.  I'm a frakkin' psychic aren't I, heh.

DWIronman_Hadron_AnimaZero.zip

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Category 1 - Died on E1M3 - 45/143 kills

 

Yeah, maybe I could survive longer, but my nerves didn't help me. I missed many shots and made bad decisions in the end of the run, maybe too focused in avoid lost souls and cacos that I forgot to pay attention to the snipers. Well, maybe I'll do better next time.

SilentD00mer_ReturnToHadron.zip

 

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Category 1, died in E1M6

 

Well, glad to get one of these out. After nearly killing myself with my own rockets twice, dealing with shotgunners far more duarable than they had any right to be, and some other stupidity, it seemed like I had a shot until E1M6. Do you know what it's like to rocket your way through your opposition and then realize that might not be the wisest course of action when there are many Spectres around? Yeah, I had a small chance to get out of this still, but there was really little prayer without a plasma rifle.

 

hardrom ironman.zip

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10 hours ago, LadyMistDragon said:

Category 1, died in E1M6

 

Well, glad to get one of these out. After nearly killing myself with my own rockets twice, dealing with shotgunners far more duarable than they had any right to be, and some other stupidity, it seemed like I had a shot until E1M6. Do you know what it's like to rocket your way through your opposition and then realize that might not be the wisest course of action when there are many Spectres around? Yeah, I had a small chance to get out of this still, but there was really little prayer without a plasma rifle.

 

hardrom ironman.zip

 

With what have you recorded this demo? Tried playing it back with prBoom+ 2.5.1.4 (Unknown demo format 221), Eternity (Unsupported demo format) and (G)Zdoom (Cannot play non-ZDoom demos) but it was unsuccessful. Also, what category is your run in?

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3 hours ago, NaZa said:

With what have you recorded this demo? Tried playing it back with prBoom+ 2.5.1.4 (Unknown demo format 221), Eternity (Unsupported demo format) and (G)Zdoom (Cannot play non-ZDoom demos) but it was unsuccessful. Also, what category is your run in?

Demo format 221 means it was recorded in MBF21 compatibility, if I'm not mistaken the only ports that support it at the moment are DSDA-Doom and Woof.

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Ah, okay, thank you very much Andromeda. I was aware MBF21 and DSDA-Doom existed, but not anything more, so my ignorance is on fault there. As the complevel in the command line is -complevel 3 because the set is limit-removing, I'll unfortunately have to check if -complevel 21 affects gameplay substantially enough to result in a possible (illegal comp settings) flag.

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3 hours ago, NaZa said:

 

 

With what have you recorded this demo? Tried playing it back with prBoom+ 2.5.1.4 (Unknown demo format 221), Eternity (Unsupported demo format) and (G)Zdoom (Cannot play non-ZDoom demos) but it was unsuccessful. Also, what category is your run in?

It appears to have been recorded with From Doom With Love 2021.10.12 (a friendly fork of DSDA-Doom). If one opens the demo in a text editor and scrolls to the bottom they'll find that there. Running -analysis on the demo reveals it was recorded on skill 3 which appears to still be the default in that port. Coupled with that and having been recorded on cl21 (also the default), it seems what likely happened was the launch parameters weren't passed to the executable somehow.

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Thank you Rotwang, I wasn't aware it was visible in notepad - that's quite useful to know for the future. I had just downloaded DSDA-Doom and saw that it was recorded on -skill 3 as well. Sucks, it was quite solid gameplay. I'll have to disqualify the run because it wasn't on UV but let that not discourage you from further attempts in the future @LadyMistDragon! For the future, the command line in the OP is usually correct when it comes to launch parameters.

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51 minutes ago, NaZa said:

Thank you Rotwang, I wasn't aware it was visible in notepad - that's quite useful to know for the future. I had just downloaded DSDA-Doom and saw that it was recorded on -skill 3 as well. Sucks, it was quite solid gameplay. I'll have to disqualify the run because it wasn't on UV but let that not discourage you from further attempts in the future @LadyMistDragon! For the future, the command line in the OP is usually correct when it comes to launch parameters.

 

Should @LadyMistDragon want to do so, they can always record a demo in the proper skill level (and hopefully with the proper complevel) and submit it for consideration on the Prepared Leaderboard. I think that would be an option here.

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2 hours ago, NaZa said:

Thank you Rotwang, I wasn't aware it was visible in notepad - that's quite useful to know for the future. I had just downloaded DSDA-Doom and saw that it was recorded on -skill 3 as well. Sucks, it was quite solid gameplay. I'll have to disqualify the run because it wasn't on UV but let that not discourage you from further attempts in the future @LadyMistDragon! For the future, the command line in the OP is usually correct when it comes to launch parameters.

Oh damn it! I was in a rush, and was afraid something like that might happen. I guess I'll do a Category 2 run later, which that probably should've been by right anyway (I played for around 15 minutes before when I thought there was probably no demo).

 

 

Category 2, died on E1M4, 15 minutes elapsing

You might be able to tell I didn't want to play this again. Though I think I should've kept the chaingun out far more than I did.

 

 

 

 

hadron2.zip

Edited by LadyMistDragon

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Thank you for providing a run - this time everything is okay! It is not standard category 2, however - as you've technically played the set after it was announced - however, it's eligible for the Prepared Leaderboard, where it will be put. Technicalities, I know. But now officially, welcome aboard!

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Finally I get to participate in this contest the second time! This was category 1 to me, I have never played or seen this one before. I think I've heard the name of the wad mentioned before, though. Completed E1M3, died on E1M4 with 18/188 kills at approximately 23 minutes, 42 seconds of total playtime. I recorded it in DSDA-Doom v0.23, complevel 3 as instructed. I didn't have dsda-doom.wad loaded as per usual, since I feared it might trigger disqualification.

 

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Damn that hot start took me by surprise. Embarassingly enough, I spent a LOT of time in E1M3 trying to look for secrets, without much success, so it's going to be one boring demo to watch if someone wants to.

 

rhhe82_hadrone1_cl3_dsda-doom_hadron.zip

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Leaderboard updated. BoxY deservedly first so far but it's a long month is what we would be saying if it wasn't February. Instead there's less days than one thinks :)

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