Noahtheking50 Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) Caverns its only one level right now but when I release the full wad it will be finished with some edits to this level. The story of caverns is that doom guy got lost in a cave. But there is secret rooms hiding by a abonded civilization. That was a breif summary of the map. Cave1.zip Edited March 11, 2022 by Noahtheking50 1 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, Noahtheking50 said: This is the demo for the wad im making called caverns its called cavrens its where you ate going to go throught alot of caves i think it will be a 1 episode with 10 levels. Cave1.zip there is a typo im sorry 0 Share this post Link to post
ScrappyMcDoogerton Posted March 11, 2022 If you need to correct your post, you can just edit it and then put in the comments the reason for the edit. No need to make a new post just to correct a typo. Also, a little more information about the wad, such as which source ports it is compatible with, and whether the player should use freelook, jumping etc. would be helpful. Now, about the map. having seen your previous work, this is definitely an improvement, but there are a lot of newbie mistakes that still need correcting. The blue key door hides a secret, but the blue key is easy to find and right next to it, it would be cool if the player had to find a hidden key to access the secret. Likewise, the red key is placed right next to the red door, making it rather unnecessary. It would be better if the player had to go to another location, possibly getting ambushed by monsters when collecting it, and then have to backtrack to the red door. The rooms all have just a few monsters placed in random locations. Try adding different ways of releasing monsters, such as a closet opening up, or a teleport trap. Every room in the map is the same height. Try making rooms that are at different heights and connect them with staircases. There are some errors with the exit switch sector as seen in this screenshot: https://imgur.com/rgLwkJN I hope this is helpful! 1 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 11, 2022 9 hours ago, ScrappyMcDoogerton said: If you need to correct your post, you can just edit it and then put in the comments the reason for the edit. No need to make a new post just to correct a typo. Also, a little more information about the wad, such as which source ports it is compatible with, and whether the player should use freelook, jumping etc. would be helpful. Now, about the map. having seen your previous work, this is definitely an improvement, but there are a lot of newbie mistakes that still need correcting. The blue key door hides a secret, but the blue key is easy to find and right next to it, it would be cool if the player had to find a hidden key to access the secret. Likewise, the red key is placed right next to the red door, making it rather unnecessary. It would be better if the player had to go to another location, possibly getting ambushed by monsters when collecting it, and then have to backtrack to the red door. The rooms all have just a few monsters placed in random locations. Try adding different ways of releasing monsters, such as a closet opening up, or a teleport trap. Every room in the map is the same height. Try making rooms that are at different heights and connect them with staircases. There are some errors with the exit switch sector as seen in this screenshot: https://imgur.com/rgLwkJN I hope this is helpful! im sorry 0 Share this post Link to post
CoolerDoomeR Posted March 11, 2022 10 hours ago, Noahtheking50 said: This is the demo for the wad im making called caverns its called cavrens its where you ate going to go throught alot of caves i think it will be a 1 episode with 10 levels. Cave1.zip Will be v1.0 released in 2022? 0 Share this post Link to post
ScrappyMcDoogerton Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Noahtheking50 said: im sorry lol no need to be sorry bud. It's all a part of the learning process. 0 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, ScrappyMcDoogerton said: lol no need to be sorry bud. It's all a part of the learning process. ok im sorry i said im sorry 1 Share this post Link to post
FireWarden1000 Posted March 20, 2022 I completed Cavern demo Cave1.wad with LZDoom, this map is not complete. There is nothing to search for in the map, except for the keys to complete the map. There are only 11 enemies in the entire map. This map release is not considered a demo release. My suggestions, build smaller areas instead of large, and empty areas in the map. Remove areas of the map that are not required to be accessed by the player. Add more powerful enemies to a level to increase the difficulty of the map. If the player is provided with powerful weapons or large amounts of ammo, add more enemies to the map. Practice, and study building DOOM maps before releasing a map to the public. Build a DOOM WAD with at least 5 minutes of gameplay. 0 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 1:51 PM, FireWarden1000 said: I completed Cavern demo Cave1.wad with LZDoom, this map is not complete. There is nothing to search for in the map, except for the keys to complete the map. There are only 11 enemies in the entire map. This map release is not considered a demo release. My suggestions, build smaller areas instead of large, and empty areas in the map. Remove areas of the map that are not required to be accessed by the player. Add more powerful enemies to a level to increase the difficulty of the map. If the player is provided with powerful weapons or large amounts of ammo, add more enemies to the map. Practice, and study building DOOM maps before releasing a map to the public. Build a DOOM WAD with at least 5 minutes of gameplay. this is an abonded project fix if you want i dont care 0 Share this post Link to post
FireWarden1000 Posted March 22, 2022 If you want me to edit the map for you, I do not have a problem helping you out. The map is ZDoom based, I am more familiar with maps for DOOM.EXE. Are you saying this WAD is cancelled? I didn't say the map was either good or bad. There is not enough gameplay in the Cavern demo to provide you a map review. 0 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireWarden1000 said: If you want me to edit the map for you, I do not have a problem helping you out. The map is ZDoom based, I am more familiar with maps for DOOM.EXE. Are you saying this WAD is cancelled? I didn't say the map was either good or bad. There is not enough gameplay in the Cavern demo to provide you a map review. ok edit if you you want i dont care ok 0 Share this post Link to post
FireWarden1000 Posted March 25, 2022 I forked the Cavern Demo Cave1.wad DOOM II map, the map is called Cave1-TEST by FireWarden1000. Map TITLE: Cave1-TEST Version: 1.00 Lead Developer: FireWarden1000 Release Date: 03/24/2022 Cave1-TEST was made using data from DOOM II. Cave1-TEST is a fork of Cavern Demo Cave1.wad DOOM II map developed by Noahtheking50. DOOM ENGINE EDITOR SOFTWARE: Eureka DOOM Editor Eureka DOOM Editor website:http://eureka-editor.sourceforge.net/ Use the latest developer version of the Eureka DOOM Editor:https://github.com/ioan-chera/eureka-editor Free image hosting provided by the ImgBB website. Upload and share your images. ImgBB website:https://imgbb.com/ Watch the development of Cave1-TEST on the Doomworld forums. Forums: Doomworldhttps://www.doomworld.com/ Cavern demo - WADs & Mods - Doomworldhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127940-cavern-demo/ Compatible with LZDoom 3.88a ZDoom website:https://zdoom.org/index Compatible with PrBoom-Plus 2.6.1um PrBoom-Plus GitHub repository website:https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus Map Description: Single player DOOM II map. Map includes Easy, Medium, and Hard difficulty levels. Maps Included with Cave1-TEST.wad: MAP01 Cave1-TEST Background Story: MAP01 Cave1-TEST A research team goes missing after investigating ruins in the "insert location name here" Caverns for answers involving demon teleporter technology. Doomguy is sent to the "insert location name here" Caverns to find the missing research team. After a series of earthquakes inside the "insert location name here" Caverns, Doomguy is now lost inside the cavern. Doomguy must find a way out of the "insert location name here" Caverns, and find the missing research team. Files included with Cave1-TEST.zip: DEVELOPMENTTRACKING.TXT Cave1-TEST.TXT Cave1-TEST.wad Screenshots: Spoiler Cave1-TEST.zip 0 Share this post Link to post
ScrappyMcDoogerton Posted March 25, 2022 I made a video showcasing the map you guys made, I even got a true UV-Max! Thank you both for making it, I had a lot of fun playing :) 1 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 25, 2022 14 hours ago, FireWarden1000 said: I forked the Cavern Demo Cave1.wad DOOM II map, the map is called Cave1-TEST by FireWarden1000. Map TITLE: Cave1-TEST Version: 1.00 Lead Developer: FireWarden1000 Release Date: 03/24/2022 Cave1-TEST was made using data from DOOM II. Cave1-TEST is a fork of Cavern Demo Cave1.wad DOOM II map developed by Noahtheking50. DOOM ENGINE EDITOR SOFTWARE: Eureka DOOM Editor Eureka DOOM Editor website:http://eureka-editor.sourceforge.net/ Use the latest developer version of the Eureka DOOM Editor:https://github.com/ioan-chera/eureka-editor Free image hosting provided by the ImgBB website. Upload and share your images. ImgBB website:https://imgbb.com/ Watch the development of Cave1-TEST on the Doomworld forums. Forums: Doomworldhttps://www.doomworld.com/ Cavern demo - WADs & Mods - Doomworldhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127940-cavern-demo/ Compatible with LZDoom 3.88a ZDoom website:https://zdoom.org/index Compatible with PrBoom-Plus 2.6.1um PrBoom-Plus GitHub repository website:https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus Map Description: Single player DOOM II map. Map includes Easy, Medium, and Hard difficulty levels. Maps Included with Cave1-TEST.wad: MAP01 Cave1-TEST Background Story: MAP01 Cave1-TEST A research team goes missing after investigating ruins in the "insert location name here" Caverns for answers involving demon teleporter technology. Doomguy is sent to the "insert location name here" Caverns to find the missing research team. After a series of earthquakes inside the "insert location name here" Caverns, Doomguy is now lost inside the cavern. Doomguy must find a way out of the "insert location name here" Caverns, and find the missing research team. Files included with Cave1-TEST.zip: DEVELOPMENTTRACKING.TXT Cave1-TEST.TXT Cave1-TEST.wad Screenshots: Reveal hidden contents Cave1-TEST.zip amazing sir. You did an amzing job it very cool. Good job 1 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 25, 2022 5 hours ago, ScrappyMcDoogerton said: I made a video showcasing the map you guys made, I even got a true UV-Max! Thank you both for making it, I had a lot of fun playing :) why did you put my name i didt work on any of that. 0 Share this post Link to post
ScrappyMcDoogerton Posted March 25, 2022 lol buddy it's called 'giving credit' that map is either built on top of or directly inspired by the map that you made so we are thanking you for making it. Without the map that you made the other map would never have been made either so even if you didn't work on it directly we still want to make sure people know this whole thing was started by you :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Noahtheking50 Posted March 25, 2022 3 hours ago, ScrappyMcDoogerton said: lol buddy it's called 'giving credit' that map is either built on top of or directly inspired by the map that you made so we are thanking you for making it. Without the map that you made the other map would never have been made either so even if you didn't work on it directly we still want to make sure people know this whole thing was started by you :) K 0 Share this post Link to post
FireWarden1000 Posted March 26, 2022 Thanks for testing out Cave1-TEST.wad. I made the map within 6 hours, and I didn't add any new areas to explore if you completed Cave1.wad. Cave1-TEST was developed on top of Cave1.wad, and is a relatively short map to complete. I usually build techbase maps, and Noahtheking50 actually showed up at a good time, because the last map that I developed has a mining complex area. I was developing cave locations, then I was asked to build the Cavern demo DOOM II level. 1 Share this post Link to post