What are the worst kinds of Metal fans?

[OpenRift]

If there's one thing that is constant amongst metal fans, it's hating other metal fans. I think starting out in the community, you don't entirely get it and it just seems like general elitism, but then when you start to dig into and listen to that good shit, you start to get it. Some people just suck. Whether it's shit taste, shit takes, or just being shit people, there's always someone to complain about. 

 

 

For me, it's probably the eggheads who believe in the weird delusion of "pizza thrash" where bands that aren't heavier than say like, Slayer, "aren't real thrash". It's usually used in reference to revival-era thrash bands like Municiple Waste, I've heard even cornerstone bands like Anthrax referred to as such. These are often the same who hate Metallica solely because they stopped doing thrash after the Black Album (I don't really care for anything after Master of Puppets, but I love Metallica for that holy trinity of albums from '83-'86). Like I understand weeding out posers, but these people just trying to make people out to be posers just for the sake of it.

 

 

So metal fans of Doomworld, what are the kind of metal fans that you hate the most?

[Murdoch]

Gatekeepers and the ones that say "no band a is not b metal they are obviously c metal" like it actually matters.

[OpenRift]

2 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

the ones that say "no band a is not b metal they are obviously c metal" like it actually matters.

I mean to be fair it can help with recommending similar artists to somebody.

[gwain]

all metalheads are good

 

jkjk these idiots are stupid:

Spoiler

 

"death metal is bad because everyone who listens is a deathmetal elitist"

 

"doom eternal has the only good metal, when idiots scream it is bad *free shilling about coomsoom gayming product*"

 

"black metal is terrible because I don't like it and you should start listening to symphonic metal"

 

"haha korn tic tac go brrr"

in conclusion enjoy the song ignore the spergs or else you become one

Edited June 27, 2022 by gwain

[Murdoch]

24 minutes ago, OpenRift said:

I mean to be fair it can help with recommending similar artists to somebody.

 

I mean it in the context of someone saying it just to be a pedantic dickhead. Like "OMG I can't believe you called PainfulDeathMonks black metal when they are clearly death metal noob!".

[Mr. Freeze]

all of them lol 

[INfront95]

Unironically: Posers. People who smear themselves in "metal attribute" and being annoying fuckers for the sake of being different than others, instead of liking music and subculture.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

Slayer fans in general, who love to point out that your favorite band isn't as heavy as Slayer, as if Slayer is anywhere close to being the heaviest band on the planet or even the heaviest thrash band from California.

 

Metal posers are pretty bad, but nowhere near as bad as goth posers listening to Blood On the Dance Floor or the 2008 posers who thought that Blink-182 qualified as hardcore punk.

 

 

Edited June 27, 2022 by TheMagicMushroomMan

[xdude_gamer]

The "traditionalist" ones who hate on other types of metal and say stuff like "Metallica died when Cliff died!"

[Endless]

So far the comments are pretty accurate, but they are mostly on the ''annoying people'' side of things.

 

Actually worse I think some of the hardcore black metal fans (especially fans of the Norwegian scene) and any of the -grind subsubgenre fans. That shit is just disturbing to a whole new level. These aren't annoying fans, these are on-the-verge-of-committing-a-crime fans. People that unironically enjoy listening to Emmit or Intestinal Disgorge.

[DJVCardMaster]

The "name 3 songs from the band of your shirt" guy, usually saying that to ladies.

[Redneckerz]

People who make threads about what kind of metal fans i hate the most.

[mrthejoshmon]

Objectively I'm the worst one because I don't even like metal, this quantifies me statistically as the worst metal fan.

 

I'll stab that knife in further and tell you Nu-Metal is the only type I like, extra villain points and all that.

[Snark]

I'm always, for some reason, wary of metalheads who wear the t-shirts of a band to the same bands concerts, and have often been right.

 

That said, as someone who organises concerts and works in a (small) concert room, I still have to say that metalheads are the best audience you can get, we don't even hire security for metal concerts anymore

[Zirtonic]

The people that pretend that extreme subgenres like brutal death and goregrind have zero artistic merit because they're hypersexual/violent/misogynistic. Misogyny is gross but you should be able to rub a couple brain cells together and realize that the music itself is still valid and should be judged like you judge other songs with "more mature" themes. I want to hear double bass abuse and 3 thousand consecutive power chords and those genres provide that.

 

 

[Obsidian]

I have to question the worth of a thread that exists to discuss the types of people you dislike. Is there any guarantee that this won't turn into a garbage fire if it's left open?

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

1 hour ago, Endless said:

Actually worse I think some of the hardcore black metal fans (especially fans of the Norwegian scene)

hahaha how about NO Varg is innocent I mean not really innocent he killed a guy sure but it was self defense and life is meaningless anyway why else would you even listen to black metal and he protects the life of the Aryan race I bet you don't even care about that you don't even listen to black metal probably plus he's such a nice guy have you seen his youtube videos how could he possibly be evil I mean sure he had 150 kg of explosives and 3000 rounds of ammunition in his home but he was just scared trust me he's a really nice guy

 

-BlakkMetalKitten666

 

@Obsidian

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I have to question the worth of a thread that exists to discuss the types of people you dislike. Is there any guarantee that this won't turn into a garbage fire if it's left open?

Don't worry, I'm entirely sure that that there are absolutely no metalheads on Doomworld, so there is very little chance of any kind of argument. No real metalheads, that is.

 

Actually, in reality I've seen this kind of question in music forums and other places, and believe it or not arguments about this topic are pretty rare as long as nobody starts talking about anything political, which is never a given.

Edited June 28, 2022 by TheMagicMushroomMan

[jazzmaster9]

Definitely the good good old "they added some mainstream music element here and has more than 1000 album buys, so they're obviously a Pop sellout now"

We get it buddy, The Black Album is not True Metal 🤣

[Mr. Freeze]

Broke: hating the Black Album because it's not as heavy as the previous four albums

 

Woke: hating the Black Album because it's boring as shit besides three songs 

[7Mahonin]

You know those sports fans who say “we” when talking about their favorite team? People like that but revolving around metal music… are the worst.

[OpenRift]

3 hours ago, DJVCardMaster said:

The "name 3 songs from the band of your shirt" guy, usually saying that to ladies.

Let's be real here tho, there are a lot of morons who just buy a band shirt for a band they've never even heard before. It's like buying a Doom shirt but having never played any game in the series.

[Mr. Freeze]

ok and

[OpenRift]

4 hours ago, xdude_gamer said:

The "traditionalist" ones who hate on other types of metal and say stuff like "Metallica died when Cliff died!"

Cliff really was what made Metallica great to be real. Like AJFA and Black Album are okay, I can't call them bad exactly, but it's just a step down from the Cliff Burton era in every possible way.

 

2 hours ago, jazzmaster9 said:

Definitely the good good old "they added some mainstream music element here and has more than 1000 album buys, so they're obviously a Pop sellout now"

We get it buddy, The Black Album is not True Metal 🤣

Honestly it's just not that great of an early 90s rock album either, like Alice in Chains' Facelift which also came out in '91 blows Black Album out of the damn water (don't even get me started on Dirt). I think anyone who's done enough research on the history of the genre (or just lived through it) knows that metal was at an all-time low by the mid-90s, and the Black Album definitely marks the beginning of that decline. There were a few that clung to the metal faith of the 80s, but it was just never the same when you had groove metal bands like Pantera turning the genre towards something that (imo) would be far worse than hair metal: nu metal. 

 

1 hour ago, 7Mahonin said:

You know those sports fans who say “we” when talking about their favorite team? People like that but revolving around metal music… are the worst.

Can you be more specific on that one? I don't follow sports ball :P

 

3 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

People who make threads about what kind of metal fans i hate the most.

>:)

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

10 minutes ago, OpenRift said:

Honestly it's just not that great of an early 90s rock album either, like Alice in Chains' Facelift which also came out in '91 blows Black Album out of the damn water (don't even get me started on Dirt). I think anyone who's done enough research on the history of the genre (or just lived through it) knows that metal was at an all-time low by the mid-90s, and the Black Album definitely marks the beginning of that decline. There were a few that clung to the metal faith of the 80s, but it was just never the same when you had groove metal bands like Pantera turning the genre towards something that (imo) would be far worse than hair metal: nu metal. 

Not that they're really comparable, but 1991 also had Human by Death, Slow Deep and Hard by Type O Negative, Gothic by Paradise Lost, Arise by Sepultura, and Forest of Equilibrium by Cathedral, all of which were better than Metallica's effort IMO. 1992 was even better.

 

The mid-90's were bad in terms of mainstream metal/the community in general tbh, but there were plenty of great things happening still, especially with progressive metal. Opeth released Orchid in 1995, Dream Theater was on their game, etc.

[7Mahonin]

13 minutes ago, OpenRift said:

Can you be more specific on that one? I don't follow sports ball :P

Metal fans who talk like an encyclopedia of their favorite band. They know every detail imaginable and are ready to defend the band with their life if they have to. They talk about the band as if they are one of their tour groupies, but they’re not. It’s likely much more rare these days, but when I was growing up there were fans that were beyond obsessed with their favorite bands, idolizing the band members, etc. to the point that they became a parrot of these bands and whatever message they thought they were getting from the lyrics they wouldn’t hesitate to mention it to you. It’s like those sports fans who talk about their favorite team, but they talk about them in a way that feels like they think they’re ON the team, “we won by three points last night”… no… your favorite team won by three points last night, you had nothing to do with it buddy!

 

a great example of this would be manowar fans from back in the day. “Well WE’RE the loudest band in the world!” No, they’re the loudest band in the world (allegedly).

 

In small doses, people like that are fine, but when they approach you to start a conversation.. it usually is a very one-sided one, and they’ll just spew their encyclopedia worth of info at you until they’re blue in the face. 

[OpenRift]

3 hours ago, Zirtonic said:

The people that pretend that extreme subgenres like brutal death and goregrind have zero artistic merit because they're hypersexual/violent/misogynistic. Misogyny is gross but you should be able to rub a couple brain cells together and realize that the music itself is still valid and should be judged like you judge other songs with "more mature" themes. I want to hear double bass abuse and 3 thousand consecutive power chords and those genres provide that.

 

 

I haven't dabbled much in that kind of extreme metal, mostly because I'm not a fan of the "cookie monster" type vocals. Like death growls can be cool if they're done well and don't sound like someone trying to speak while burping.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

13 minutes ago, OpenRift said:

Honestly it's just not that great of an early 90s rock album either, like Alice in Chains' Facelift which also came out in '91 blows Black Album out of the damn water (don't even get me started on Dirt). I think anyone who's done enough research on the history of the genre (or just lived through it) knows that metal was at an all-time low by the mid-90s, and the Black Album definitely marks the beginning of that decline. There were a few that clung to the metal faith of the 80s, but it was just never the same when you had groove metal bands like Pantera turning the genre towards something that (imo) would be far worse than hair metal: nu metal. 

Not that they're really comparable, but 1991 also had Human by Death, Slow Deep and Hard by Type O Negative, Gothic by Paradise Lost, Arise by Sepultura, and Forest of Equilibrium by Cathedral, all of which were better than Metallica's effort IMO. 1992 was even better.

 

The mid-90's were bad in terms of mainstream metal/the community in general tbh, but there were plenty of great things happening still, especially with progressive metal. Opeth released Orchid in 1995, Dream Theater was on their game, etc.

 

In my opinion, the greatest metal album of all time is Epicus Doomicus Metallicus.

[OpenRift]

Just now, 7Mahonin said:

Metal fans who talk like an encyclopedia of their favorite band. They know every detail imaginable and are ready to defend the band with their life if they have to. They talk about the band as if they are one of their tour groupies, but they’re not. It’s likely much more rare these days, but when I was growing up there were fans that were beyond obsessed with their favorite bands, idolizing the band members, etc. to the point that they became a parrot of these bands and whatever message they thought they were getting from the lyrics they wouldn’t hesitate to mention it to you. It’s like those sports fans who talk about their favorite team, but they talk about them in a way that feels like they think they’re ON the team, “we won by three points last night”… no… your favorite team won by three points last not, you had nothing to do with it buddy!

 

a great example of this would be manowar fans from back in the day. “Well WE’RE the loudest band in the world!” No, they’re the loudest band in the world (allegedly).

 

In small doses, people like that are fine, but when they approach you to start a conversation.. it usually is a very one-sided one, and they’ll just spew their encyclopedia worth of info at you until they’re blue in the face. 

I think that's just typical fandom stuff. That spans beyond both sports and metal really. Any sort of large fanbase will have those borderline annoyingly dedicated fans.

[Murdoch]

1 minute ago, OpenRift said:

I'm not a fan of the "cookie monster" type vocals

 

Haha oh God, me either. There was a cover of TNT by AC/DC by some band... Six Feet Under, that's it. The heavy instrumentation kicks in and it's actually pretty badass. Then the vocalist comes in full cookie monster and I just about laughed myself into a coma. One of the funniest things I have ever heard.

[OpenRift]

3 minutes ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

 Not that they're really comparable, but 1991 also had Human by Death, Slow Deep and Hard by Type O Negative, Gothic by Paradise Lost, Arise by Sepultura, and Forest of Equilibrium by Cathedral, all of which were better than Metallica's effort IMO. 1992 was even better.

  

The mid-90's were bad in terms of mainstream metal/the community in general tbh, but there were plenty of great things happening still, especially with progressive metal. Opeth released Orchid in 1995, Dream Theater was on their game, etc.

 

In my opinion, the greatest metal album of all time is Epicus Doomicus Metallicus.

I mean I'm more of a Venom's Black Metal person myself, but yeah Candlemass's debut album's pretty good too. 

 

I'll agree that the best metal of the 90s was the more underground stuff, as goes for most things. Underground/deep cuts are always better and more interesting.