Guess the Map! (20th edition, have some hint fireworks)

[NuMetalManiak]

Previous threads: I'm going on an adventure!

 

Missed it? Probably not, but if you did, you missed it. And now it's back on the start of the new month. It's about guessing maps from automap screenshots! The amount of screenshots has been expanded to only 20, we're probably not going to do 25 anymore but that's fine since we are indeed running out of wads. It's still somewhat short and they are all Doom and Doom II wads this time. Difficulty will get slightly tougher each image.

 

Important notes:

 

- Answers MUST be hidden in spoilers, no exceptions. If you don't use the spoiler option, your guesses won't count.

- You may resort to the search bar, web pages, or whatever assistance in case you're not 100% sure of the wad and/or slot but feel like you've seen the map before.

- And for this edition, see if you can find the theme that I sneakily placed in here (doesn't apply to all 20 maps though)

 

New hints: July 4th

Answers to be revealed on: July 7th

 

01.

Spoiler

An early-game level that's short with a cute middle structure.

This level does debut a monster from your nightmares.

MAIN

 

02.

Spoiler

The pentagram area to the east has demons.

The SE area has one surprise trap with hitscanners, but due to this being an early game map, it's not as bad as others

TOM

 

03.

Spoiler

Tilt the entire layout a different way and you're probably going to see quite some familiarity.

Hitscanners cluster the SW area

EMB

 

04.

Spoiler

Even in the most congested of spaces here, there's going to be hitscanners teleporting.

Actually getting to the exit is a strange case of going around trees while staying on a ledge.

TYC

 

05.

Spoiler

The start of this level is just brutal for pistol start due to a cyberdemon right next to you where the weapons are.

This has a lot of Plutonia aesthetic, but isn't a part of anything Plutonia. Maybe next time.

NIV

 

06.

Spoiler

The exit teleporter has cacodemons ambushing you there.

There's even a secret BFG there which involves ledge hugging.

KEN

 

07.

Spoiler

The middle area is clearly an enhanced version of a classic boss map, one you revisit several times.

Since it is enhanced, you certainly can expect more than one spider mastermind.

LLR

 

08.

Spoiler

This level appeared in two megawads, in one of them the author is a guest mapper but this is the map from the other one.

There's a secret in the water hub. Find the different torch!

IGH

 

09.

Spoiler

The maze at the top is deliberately designed to be perplexing.

The area at the east side (not the maze) is supposed to represent an asylum. Fitting considering what this level is supposed to do.

ITE

 

10.

Spoiler

You not only have to go through every toe to get to the exit, but you must keep on your toes too.

This wasn't in the previous Doom 1 version of the wad.

LEI

 

11.

Spoiler

The challenging valley at the beginning is basically the testament in this last level of a small Doom II set.

This is one of two maps in this wad that had Castlevania music.

VIC

 

12.

Spoiler

A level where you can freely roam just about anywhere on the outside

It's just full of Hellgrowth, everywhere. But I appreciate the nonlinearity after a while.

DAW

 

13.

Spoiler

This starts the second string of slaughtermaps in a relatively small set after a death exit (though small is an understatement, this level will have plenty to keep you going)

Most likely seems to have been inspired by Sunder MAP11, due to the texturing. But smaller.

HOC

 

14.

Spoiler

New terrain, basically is what the level is in name.

Uses a track from Requiem.

MOR

 

15.

Spoiler

The final hellish level in a set that was shall we say, "left out"

The wad itself has a rather long name.

RAF

 

16.

Spoiler

A gimmick level centered around running away from tons of demons in a course.

When I see this gimmick concept, I admit I think of HR MAP29 and the demons behind the starting point too.

AYH

 

17.

Spoiler

A city level heavily inspired by MM MAP28.

Those diamonds/circles on the east side are barriers that open with each switch you find here.

OUR

 

18.

Spoiler

The start of an episode starter for Ultimate Doom, a number of interesting outside areas are here.

That straight corridor at the east side reminds me of the original E2M1 secret.

ADL

 

19.

Spoiler

A more or less controversial unofficial sequel to a legendary map.

It has the same number of secrets as the map number it is an unofficial sequel to.

GYP

 

20.

Spoiler

A hub level where you need at least three keys to get to the final boss area in the NE.

One key is actually a secret key, and there's also a random mushroom to collect too.

FOR

 

Let's get guessing!

Edited July 4, 2022 by NuMetalManiak : hints here.

[NaZa]

No hints:

Spoiler

1. Doom 64, MAP03 (thank you D64D2... hopefully it's not that)
2. -
3. I can tell that's MAP10 from Doom 2 but not quite. Could it be Doom 2 From Memory MAP10?
4. I've definitely played this before. Looks like Talosian Incident...
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. -
9. -
10. -
11. Vae Victus 2, MAP07
12. -
13. -
14. -
15. -
16. -
17. -
18. -
19. -
20. -

 

With hints:

Spoiler

1. Doom 64, MAP03
2. - (though it's somewhat reminding me of smth)
3. Doom 2 From Memory MAP10
4. -
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. -
9. -
10. -
11. Vae Victus 2, MAP07
12. -
13. -
14. Wow, I should have known this. Jägermörder 2: Terra Nova
15. -
16. -
17. -
18. -
19. -
20. -

 

Both worse and better than before I think.

[spineapple tea]

Spoiler

Is 2. MAP02 of Memento Mori 2?

 

[SiFi270]

Without hints:

Spoiler

1. Doom 64 Map03

7. Hell Revealed 2 Map26

With hints:

Spoiler

3. Doom 2 the Way We Remember it Map10

10. Cleimos 2 Map17

19. DBP23: Evil Egypt Map11

 

[vdgg]

1 hour ago, NuMetalManiak said:

we are running out of wads.

You made me smile :)

 

sight

Spoiler

02 Memento Mori II MAP02. The SW room with a cross is completely unknown
to me, must be deathmatch start?? Edit LOL confused by such an easy layout

07 Hell Revealed II?

10 Cleimos II MAP17. Sole survivor, heh.

no hints

Spoiler

04 Cchest2 MAP05, the hint is maybe too revealing
07 HR2 MAP...26?
14 Jagermorder II
17 Eternally Yours

 

[cannonball]

Spoiler

7 - HR2 Map26

12 - Nova 2 Map25

15 - E4M8 - Draft Excluder

I got a few, two not so far guessed.

[Bowsertime28]

aw man no freedoom maps :(

[tonytheparrot]

 

No hints:

Spoiler

2- Memento Mori 2 Map 2

7- Hell Revealed 2 Map 26

Hints:

Spoiler

1-Doom 64 Map 3

4- Community Chest 2 Map 5

5- Speed of Doom Map 23

Hints and wiki:

Spoiler

12- Nova 2: New Dawn Map 25

13- Combat Shock 2 Map 4

19- DBP23: Evil Egypt Map 11

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by tonytheparrot

[Shepardus]

No hints:

Spoiler

7. Dis 2000 (Hell Revealed II MAP26) - I haven't even played HR2, this is just the first map I can think of that's based on E3M8.

 

[pcorf]

Spoiler

02 - Memento Mori 2 MAP02

08 - Twilight Zone 2 MAP10

 

[galileo31dos01]

Spoiler

02. Memento Mori II, MAP02

03. Doom 2 The Way We Remember It, MAP10

05. Speed of Doom, MAP23

07. Hell Revealed 2, MAP26

12. NOVA II, MAP25

16. MAYhem 2013, MAP08

 

theme: umm, sequel wads?

 

EDIT:

 

Spoiler

11. Vae Victus 2, MAP07 I think? it's the last map for sure

19. Evil Egypt, MAP11 (was gonna consider it one of the mapper's best works, but this one ridiculous lazy secret made me loose all respect for it, unfortunately)

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by galileo31dos01

[vdgg]

After thinking about this nights and days (I knew I have seen and played this before!), I can finally tell that 06 is

Spoiler

Darken2 MAP10

 

[Lime]

Spoiler

4 is definitely Elixir from community chest 2

 

[NuMetalManiak]

Have some new hint fireworks. We're going with the letter hints again and not screenshots since that didn't work out. But admittingly I think my new hints are kinda lame. Answers are going to be on the 7th and also see if you can find the theme for this edition (again not all maps shown follow the theme but most do).

[SiFi270]

Spoiler

9. Whitemare 2 Map13

13. Combat Shock 2 Map04

18. Deadly Standards 2 E2M1

20. Hell Forged HF1M8

 

Seems galileo was right about the theme.

 

[Doomlover77]

Spoiler

number 10 Cleim20.wad map 17

 

[galileo31dos01]

round 2

 

Spoiler

01. I guess Doom 64 

06. The Darkening 2, MAP10 which I remember very little of, but a vague image of the caco finale and not getting the BFG in time

08. I'm most tempted to say Operation BIOWAR, because it is the map I'm thinking of, but there's no "IGH" in it soo... it's gotta be Twilight Zone II, and that's as far as I'll get

13. Combat Shock 2, MAP04

15. oh lmao, that's Thy Flesh Turned into a Draft Excluder, E4M8 

17. I knew it had to be a valkiriforce map that I played before, just the name of the wad eluded me until now... it is Eternally Yours, MAP07

 

that's all I know or remember or get an image, and I confirm the theme is exactly what I said before

Edited July 4, 2022 by galileo31dos01

[RjY]

Spoiler

01 MAP03: Main Engineering (Doom 64)
02 MAP02: The Feeding Pit (Memento Mori II)
03 MAP10: Meatball Madness (Doom 2: The Way We RemEMBer It)
04 MAP05: Elixir (Community Chest 2)
05 MAP23: Poison Ivy II (Speed of Doom)
06 MAP10: Plasmorgasm (The Darkening Episode 2)
07 MAP26: Dis 2000 (Hell Revealed II)
08
09
10 MAP17: Sole Survivor (Cleimos 2)
11 MAP07 (Vae Victus 2)
12
13 MAP04: Rapid Fire (Combat Shock 2)
14
15 E4M8: Palace of Destruction (Thy Flesh turned into a draft-excluder)
16 MAP08: The Demon Rush (MAYhem 2013)
17
18
19
20

It seems I get one for free this week. Thanks! I had hoped one of my maps would show up here eventually. (Also for writing the walkthrough).

It appears the theme is sequels: Doom64 is a sequel to Doom2, Memento Mori II, Community Chest 2, Poison Ivy II, The Darkening Episode 2, Hell Revealed II, etc.
 

 

[NuMetalManiak]

July 7th is here.

 

1. MAP03 Main Engineering from Doom 64 (NaZa, SiFi, tonytheparrot, RjY, galileo wad guess)
2. MAP02 The Feeding Pit from Memento Mori II (spineapple tea, vdgg, tonytheparrot, pcorf, galileo, RjY)

3. MAP10 Meatball Madness from Doom 2 The Way We Remember It (NaZa, SiFi, galileo, RjY)
4. MAP05 Elixir from Community Chest 2 (vdgg, tonytheparrot, Doommsatic, RjY)
5. MAP23 Poison Ivy II from Speed of Doom (tonytheparrot, galileo, RjY)

6. MAP10 Plasmorgasm from The Darkening Episode 2 (vdgg, galileo, RjY)

7. MAP26 Dis 2000 from Hell Revealed II (SiFi, vdgg, cannonball, tonytheparrot, Shepardus, galileo, RjY)

8. MAP10 Facility from The Twilight Zone II (pcorf, galileo wad guess, it's also not Biowar MAP09)

9. MAP13 Inside Your Head from Whitemare 2 (SiFi)

10. MAP17 Sole Survivor from Cleimos 2 (SiFi, vdgg, DoomLover77, RjY)

11. MAP07 from Vae Victus 2 (NaZa, galileo, RjY)

12. MAP25 Parasite Hive from NOVA 2: New Dawn (cannonball, tonytheparrot, galileo)

13. MAP04 Rapid Fire from Combat Shock 2 (tonytheparrot, SiFi, galileo, RjY)

14. Jägermörder 2: Terra Nova (NaZa, vdgg)

15. E4M8 Palace of Destruction from Thy Flesh turned into a draft-excluder (cannonball, galileo, RjY)

16. MAP08 The Demon Rush from MAYhem 2013 (galileo, RjY)

17. MAP07 Woodheart from Eternally Yours (galileo, vdgg wad guess)

18. E2M1 Outpost Lima Charlie from Deadly Standards 2 (SiFi)

19. MAP11 Misri Halek Pt. II from DBP23: Evil Egypt (SiFi, tonytheparrot, galileo)

20. HF1M8 The Hellforge from Hell-Forged (SiFi)

 

And the theme was definitely sequel wads. Of course this wasn't the theme for all of these, or was it? Tried to be a little creative and also include sequels outside of the first iteration's wad file (like Poison Ivy II being in Speed of Doom when the original was in Claustrophobia 1024) while others, like Eternally Yours being a non-numbered sequel to the Reverie trilogy for instance. Whenever the next edition comes, you probably won't expect it, or maybe you will, who knows?