MyHouse.wad

[Goldar]

I recently updated GZDoom and, um, help?

 

[ShallowB]

Did you try to play MyHouse with Brutal Doom.

[Goldar]

17 hours ago, ShallowB said:

Did you try to play MyHouse with Brutal Doom.

 

...Ohh, left the file and command in the batch file carried over from the last install. That'd do it. Oops.

[cacomonkey]

Anyone else get framerate drops once you start exploring the house's main floors?  I'm on an i9/RTX 3070 rig and no other wad I've played - even Elementalism Phase 1 - drops this much.  It's still quite playable but it's just curious because I see nothing particularly graphically demanding in those house levels.  I play at 4K at 120 Hz.

[Gregor]

1 hour ago, cacomonkey said:

Anyone else get framerate drops once you start exploring the house's main floors?  I'm on an i9/RTX 3070 rig and no other wad I've played - even Elementalism Phase 1 - drops this much.  It's still quite playable but it's just curious because I see nothing particularly graphically demanding in those house levels.  I play at 4K at 120 Hz.

Looks can be deceiving. MyHouse is actually quite demanding under the hood - lots of scripts being run in the background plus the various iterations of the house with all the line portals interconnecting them. At 4K and a 120fps target, it's not surprising to see some drops even on a mid-to-high rig.

[tornado potato]

I only got framerate drops in the Poolhouse. Otherwise it ran ok* on my laptop's stock GeForce mx150


*For me "ok" is 30fps lol

[Scuba Steve]

20 hours ago, cacomonkey said:

Anyone else get framerate drops once you start exploring the house's main floors?  I'm on an i9/RTX 3070 rig and no other wad I've played - even Elementalism Phase 1 - drops this much.  It's still quite playable but it's just curious because I see nothing particularly graphically demanding in those house levels.  I play at 4K at 120 Hz.

 

You know... I wonder how this runs on VKDoom... @Batandy claimed Golden Souls 3 saw a significant performance increase.

[SupremeBioVizier]

Spoiler

I was going through the files in slade last night and saw some sprites I did not see in game play...either they weren't used or.....

 

Yeah it's been like two months since I played myhouse.wad and it's still blows my mind...if I make a map that is like original doom, I'm doing it wrong is the new rule for myself.

Thanks,ss

[Skemech]

Last online March 2nd. My_House uploaded March 2nd. Bro just released a masterpiece then said "Ight I'ma head out"

[WubNub]

I'm sure this has been discovered before but I recently tried looking for any special secrets in the concrete maze section of this map. I was wandering for about an hour when I found a very large room. In the center of the room I found a hole with stairs leading down. I followed the stairs for what seemed like forever. Until I reached the bottom. Directly touching the bottom kills me, and if I try to go back up the staircase I also die. Any help?  

[WubNub]

Spoiler

On a sperate point, I've gotten the rocket launcher in the mirror gas station, as well as the controller. What's next?

 

[discpaul]

14 hours ago, Skemech said:

Last online March 2nd. My_House uploaded March 2nd. Bro just released a masterpiece then said "Ight I'ma head out"

Perhaps faced with the importance of the reactions, Vedge needed to take a step back! Everyone handles such a situation as best they can!

We just have to respect this decision! ;-)

Edited September 22, 2023 by discpaul

[Amaruq Wulfe]

I'll be honest, I'm more than just impressed over the sheer amount underlying scripting and mapping tricks that keeps this thing going. The story to follow is without a doubt, one of the best I've seen as of recent. The horror aspect of it is however, a tad bit overblown. It feels, or at least to me, much more deeper than just simple horror as a few people who covered it on YouTube passed it off as.

 

(Spoilers feel unnecessary at this point, but I'll add them regardless.)

 

Spoiler

 

I've yet to find something in here that actually contributed to any sort of horror. Now, I'm not saying that it isn't provided properly. To me, I found it much more melancholy instead of horror. The story feels like an internal struggle to accept the passing of someone you held dear, and all the nightmares that follow such emotions. It gives off a constant feel of dread; something just isn't right. And I've to say, that dread that it induces is done to perfection; I seriously wasn't satisfied with myself until I finally got to the actual ending. That sense of dread the character was meant to be suffering from, it felt as it got over me eventually. I wanted answers, too. It went as far to the point that upon knowing I wasn't meant to kill the dogs, I redid the entire .wad over again in order to just get the "perfect" answer that I was looking for. One has to say, the originality the creator has provided here and the mystery he has formed over it is remarkable in every regard.

 

Spoiler

I do have a few bit of criticisms too, however. Usage of some of the pop culture references felt a tad bit unnecessary. One that a lot of people missed or that I've misinterpreted it as such, was the Rick n' Morty one, with the Pumpkin Rick. It took away a little bit from the emotions. Backrooms too, don't seem as they belong here. It's there as a security measure to prevent the player from exploring the different sections of the map individually, but I'm sure something more original could've been made instead of getting onto the Backrooms. Third one was the Shrek. Alright, this is a little bit of me being nitpicking, but Shrek actually sent me into hysterics the moment I saw him just strolling around in the park. It felt goofy. It felt way too out of place. I see what the intention was of his presence there, but it didn't just work out for me.

 

Otherwise, it's a solid 10/10 experience that, without a doubt I'd recommend to go in blind. You wouldn't regret it if you're looking for a good time.

[Skemech]

5 hours ago, discpaul said:

Perhaps faced with the importance of the reactions, Vedge needed to take a step back! Everyone handles such a situation as best they can!

We just have to respect this decision! ;-)

fair, if I suddenly became famous in like a matter of two days, I'd let that shit get to my head

[Chesspionage]

On 9/15/2023 at 9:31 PM, DavidN said:

All right, one more time :) I ventured back into the House to add some observations, especially on the version differences I mentioned several pages ago, and to answer questions that had come up on the other videos!

 

I was very surprised to learn another use of slopes and portals that I’d overlooked before, but that’s so clever for something a player might not even notice!
 

The Machinations of myhouse.wad (How it works) - Part 4

 

 I *love* the surface simplicity and hidden depths of myhouse.wad.  Thank you for yet another chapter to your deep dive @DavidN!  

[WubNub]

What is the newest information we've got?

[IronDoomer]

 

Pyro finally did a video on the wad.

[Mr Masker]

6 hours ago, IronDoomer said:

 

Pyro finally did a video on the wad.

So surreal to see Pyro talk about this, I remember watching him when he was copying CSGO Commentary YouTubers.

[Bambbud69420]

"10 minutes of playtime,"

Spoiler

that's just a lie

 

[the_mystery]

w h y d i d t h e d o o r  s  d  i  s  a  p  e  a  r

[Devalaous]

That video's journal segments are the best yet.

[ShallowB]

12 hours ago, IronDoomer said:

Pyro finally did a video on the wad.

This video also goes into details that have previously caused this thread to get locked down and comments deleted.  So unless some minds have changed about some stuff, I guess expect that to happen again. 

Edited September 24, 2023 by ShallowB : removed video to reduce clutter

[Major Arlene]

22 minutes ago, ShallowB said:

This video also goes into details that have previously caused this thread to get locked down and comments deleted.  So unless some minds have changed about some stuff, I guess expect that to happen again. 

it's bloody exhausting. it hurts the brain how stupid people are and even Kotaku had the decency to remove their references.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

1 minute ago, Major Arlene said:

it's bloody exhausting. it hurts the brain how stupid people are and even Kotaku had the decency to remove their references.

I was gone when this wad got popular. What's going on here? Are people doxing the author or playing detectives in some quest to "dig deep into the lore" or some shit? If so, that's pretty pathetic.

[Major Arlene]

1 minute ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

I was gone when this wad got popular. What's going on here? Are people doxing the author or playing detectives in some quest to "dig deep into the lore" or some shit? If so, that's pretty pathetic.

essentially, yes. people are treating the project like an Alternate Reality Game (basically at the behest of all of the youtubers outside of the doom community that have covered this) instead of, idk, a WAD.

it's so weird. I have never seen any other "my house" WAD treated in this manner, which is something I've said before. I'm not saying this project isn't special, obviously it is, but watching people with no understanding about how the community has treated these projects in the past - i.e. with the understanding that people put these things out trusting the community not to be weird and digging too far into the author's personal details - is incredibly strange.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

1 minute ago, Major Arlene said:

essentially, yes. people are treating the project like an Alternate Reality Game (basically at the behest of all of the youtubers outside of the doom community that have covered this) instead of, idk, a WAD.

it's so weird. I have never seen any other "my house" WAD treated in this manner, which is something I've said before. I'm not saying this project isn't special, obviously it is, but watching people with no understanding about how the community has treated these projects in the past - i.e. with the understanding that people put these things out trusting the community not to be weird and digging too far into the author's personal details - is incredibly strange.

It figures. It really sucks that some people don't understand the concept of respecting other people's boundaries. Just because a guy made a game based on some aspect of his life (from what I gather) doesn't mean that his life is a game. Doing something cool on the internet turns you into a contestant on The Truman Show. When you're stalking people to satisfy your need for More Sweet Lore Theories, you need to unplug the router and get a life. It's not acceptable to stalk people just because they're popular or because they made something popular. And the reasoning always amounts to "well, if they didn't want to be stalked they shouldn't have made themselves popular!". I wish they'd go back to their old hobbies, like shipping Sonic characters or making DeviantArt posts of Jeffrey Dahmer. Or better yet they could fill the vacant hole in their life by using the internet for playing video games and learning to masturbate to something that isn't someone else's life.

[Devalaous]

I feel like the problem is that you guys are expecting these many outsider youtubers and article writers to know DW's culture, unwritten rules and decades of wad knowledge; to outside people looking in, MyHouse DOES look like an ARG, its full of cryptic nonsense in the pk3 itself, all over the journal, the files in the google drive, even the text file has bloody secrets in it. The fact Veddge went deliberately missing outside of secret exchanges with staff only draws more attention to these mystery seekers. People from outside communities with vastly different interests, and not really all that attached to a 30 year old game and its community's rules, they just jump on modern trends and dive into this new popular thing with Backrooms references and other common meme stuff and go digging. So much of that above video was alien as hell to me, so many bizarre references to modern childish nonsense and popular things, its like it really was from people from a different cultural world. Arlene says 'people are treating the project like an Alternate Reality Game, instead of, idk, a WAD.' and these people don't even know what a '.wad' even really is or what it entails. Its just 'a spooky ARG' in an ancient game 'older than everyone' to a lot of people.

[Major Arlene]

4 minutes ago, Devalaous said:

I feel like the problem is that you guys are expecting these many outsider youtubers and article writers to know DW's culture, unwritten rules and decades of wad knowledge; to outside people looking in, MyHouse DOES look like an ARG, its full of cryptic nonsense in the pk3 itself, all over the journal, the files in the google drive, even the text file has bloody secrets in it.

 

And this thread is right here and 62 pages long, having discussed this issue at length already. if these youtubers and journalists gave a damn about the context around which this WAD was received by the community and what theories were already out there (which Pyro acknowledges that there were certain theories already talked about or not talked about) - they would read this thread. they reference the beginning page of this thread so the minimum they can do is skim the rest if they're already taking the time to read the lore and play the WAD. or get one of their researchers to do it if they're worried about spoilers. but instead they do this crap for clicks and relevancy all while thinking "omg I have the best juicy scoop that none of these other videos do!"

 

6 minutes ago, Devalaous said:

The fact Veddge went deliberately missing outside of secret exchanges with staff only draws more attention to these mystery seekers.

 

Or maybe he just wanted to be left alone. The extent to which people hand-wave boundary crossing is absolutely insane to me. Because it's not okay.

 

7 minutes ago, Devalaous said:

 Arlene says 'people are treating the project like an Alternate Reality Game, instead of, idk, a WAD.' and these people don't even know what a '.wad' even really is or what it entails. Its just 'a spooky ARG' in an ancient game 'older than everyone' to a lot of people.

 

The internet exists. People can look up what a WAD is just as easily as they can an ARG. Amazingly, on the same website that the video we are talking about exists on! I don't buy this line of thinking, I'm sorry. I didn't know what an ARG was for the longest time but I also can look things up. Hell, Doom is older than me but I figured out all of these things with the help of Google.

 

And sure, maybe I have a higher bar for just how much people care about the content they consume but I also think that people get way too caught up in needing to unravel every single thread without understanding the greater emotional consequences of that. Pyro acknowledges Veddge is a real person but don't once think "hmm, would Veddge be okay with me talking about this? How would I feel if this was me someone was talking about?"

 

I know this is how the internet is now but it's frustrating to watch. And somehow I feel really uncomfortable with handwaving this kind of behavior as just people being people. it's carelessness that needs to be called out.

 

For what it's worth I think that a lot of ARGs can be shady and weird and have bad people behind them, which is why I've never had this reaction in the past to this kind of content but I have zero reason to assume bad intentions or deception to dig further into this. Possibly (probably) due to bias, to be fair.

[RamsesDoomer]

this is a popular wad or pk3 by the community.

including a gmod map

*for those who never play gmod ask me...*

[ShallowB]

It's not specific to DW's "culture" to not dox people, or to understand that a fictional narrative exists within the story and not at the home address of the author.

 

No one's knocking on Mark Z. Danielewski's door investigating the Navidson Tapes.  No one tracked down Tony Domenico's family demanding more information about Petscop.  And if they did, I think we would all recognize they were wrong to do that.

 

It's a shame because there's a lot to be discussed about the themes and emotions and meaning in the wad's story and setting, but these people just turn it all into "nuh uh, actually you're all wrong and the correct answer is I know where this guy lives."

 

 

Way back, probably 30-50 pages ago, there was a weird complaint that MyHouse was "insincere" because it wasn't really made by a real Steven Nelson who really lost his real friend Tom.  At the time, people rightly pointed out that although the contents of the story are fictional, these sorts of stories are crafted out of real events and experiences, and the responses the audience has to them are real too.  And now we've gone all the way to the other end of the spectrum and people are discarding everything fictional, everything implied, everything happening between the screen and the viewer, because apparently the only thing that matters is a real physical building and an actual real person out there somewhere.

 

Hey, maybe the author would not have obscured their identity behind several layers of fictional characters if it was important to the viewer's understanding of the story?  Maybe they would not have crafted a fictional narrative if they just wanted to let a bunch of strangers in on their personal life?  Again, I don't know if the author's thoughts on this have changed or will ever change, but I did get the impression that they strongly felt their own identity was a distraction from the wad itself, and it seems weird to discard that sentiment only because it was expressed via the fictional Doomworld participant that posted the map here and not a third party using their real name on a different site possibly without their knowledge or permission.

Edited September 24, 2023 by ShallowB