[CP] [DSDA CL2] Super Doom TV - Alpha Wad - Playtest Feedback Welcome

[Lorcav]

7 hours ago, Biz! said:

You've beat me, you found the gimmick to end my gimmicking career, remove my reservations please.

TLDR: I don't know how to make the gimmick work.

 

Ah, that's a shame. Completely understand tho

[Lorcav]

Started work on some of the custom graphics, beginning with the Status Bar. Taking a little inspiration from Super Smash TV, but more of a general vibe than direct reference.

 

 

Once this is in better shape, something similar for the intermission screen I think, then title screen and story text screens and a new logo for the menu

[YeOldeFellerNoob]

I was thinking about making a song for Map30 that would literally be just Mr. Moustache (Obviously a little bit different, but very similar).

 

I instead made something that I cannot explain. To me, it sounds like shit but also sounds pretty good. Not good boss music, and I am thinking about reworking it, but I thought it was something to share. If you want me to use this as the Boss level song, please let me know, because I am going to use National Acrobat instead as a base for the Map30 song.

 

The title should explain everything else about what I feel the song sounds like.

 

 

Edited March 27 by YeOldeFellerNoob : Clarification.

[signaturereverie]

oh hey i have an urge to make something after  not touching udb for a few months, can i take map23 ?

[Lorcav]

6 hours ago, reverie said:

oh hey i have an urge to make something after  not touching udb for a few months, can i take map23 ?

 

Cool, I've updated the list, it's all yours!

[Lorcav]

10 hours ago, YeOldeFellerNoob said:

I was thinking about making a song for Map30 that would literally be just Mr. Moustache (Obviously a little bit different, but very similar).

 

I instead made something that I cannot explain. To me, it sounds like shit but also sounds pretty good. Not good boss music, and I am thinking about reworking it, but I thought it was something to share. If you want me to use this as the Boss level song, please let me know, because I am going to use National Acrobat instead as a base for the Map30 song.

 

The title should explain everything else about what I feel the song sounds like.

 

 

This is certainly not awful and can definitely hear the Nirvana influence. Right now, only you know if it's going to work for your level, maybe something inspired by Black Sabbath would have a darker groove, but depending on how you're handling the IOS it might be too slow. 

 

Definitely keen to have custom/original music as part of the whole project.

[Andrea Rovenski]

Map Name: Smash 'em 
Map Number: 01
Mapper: andrea rovenski
Prompt: Smash 'em
Music: some mmz4 song

smashemandrea.zip

[Lorcav]

40 minutes ago, Andrea Rovenski said:

Map Name: Smash 'em 
Map Number: 01
Mapper: andrea rovenski
Prompt: Smash 'em
Music: some mmz4 song

smashemandrea.zip

 

This is great.

 

I love the compact feeling of it and the encounters are tough but manageable and the ammo balance/supply keeps it interesting. Each of the areas feels distinct with your texture use without feeling too changeable within such a small map.

 

Thanks for getting us kicked off with a really fun map

 

Spoiler

I also really liked the classic "see the secret then find the right wall to get in" with the armor bonuses

I got to the end missing a third of the kills, so backtracked and opened up the additional sections from the ambush at the back of the blue key room, not sure if that's intentional or not but I liked that sense of optional exploration 

 

 

 

[Emperor S P O O N]

Here's Map19 for you. Let me know what you thought.
I'll get to work on Map17 once I have a layout figured out.

Map Name:        "Liquid Heat"
Map Author:      Emperor S P O O N
Complevel:       2 (Limit-Removing)
Custom Sky:      "OFIREA31" From OTEX_1.1.wad
Custom Midi:     "A Vast Unknown" by Emperor S P O O N
Additional Resources:
    OTEX_1.1.wad by Ukiro
    
Tested Source Ports:
    GZDoom         version 4.10.0
    DSDA-Doom      version 0.25.6
    PrBoom+        version 2.6.2
    Crispy Doom    version 5.12.0

Description:
    I chose violence today.


Known bugs:
    - Skybox transefer doesn't seem to work in PrBoom+ for whatever reason
    - All-ghosts bug may trigger depending on how you have your source port set up

LiquidHeat_v1.zip

Edited April 3 by Emperor S P O O N

[Lorcav]

On 4/2/2023 at 5:06 PM, Emperor S P O O N said:

Here's Map19 for you. Let me know what you thought.
I'll get to work on Map17 once I have a layout figured out.

 

There's no doubting the totality of the carnage here!

 

Really enjoyed the combat set pieces, especially the revenant staircase and the cramped final fight. Music was excellent too. Couldn't see anything amiss with the texturing. Adding a return-to-start teleporter is a nice touch for backtracking completionists. 

 

I found the ammo balance was one of the harder elements to manage, running low and having to use less powerful weapons toward the end of some encounters, but that kept up the urgency

 

Could only find two of the secrets as well, so will probably go back in and take another look for that. 

 

Looking forward to your next map.

 

Spoiler

Immense satisfaction crushing all the hell knights.

The sandwich between the quadruple archviles at the end needed some serious speed to manage as well.

 

[Shawn]

I would like to take a try at map 14 please. I think I have an idea that will be fun.

[Lorcav]

1 hour ago, Shawn said:

I would like to take a try at map 14 please. I think I have an idea that will be fun.

 

Cool, it's yours

[reaction]

Can't believe no-one has taken MAP13 Chunks Galore, I'll grab it!

I love Smash TV, especially the concept, aesthetic and vibe. Have you considered replacing some of the item sprites to be prizes like Smash TV? I don't see anything relating to the story in the OP so I'm not sure.

I love the status bar you've made and I'm keen to see the TITLEPIC when you get around to it. If you want some more variety I can make some recolors of monster if you'd like?

[Lorcav]

17 hours ago, reaction said:

Can't believe no-one has taken MAP13 Chunks Galore, I'll grab it!
 

 

I look forward to seeing your map in all it's galorey!

 

I'm going to be doing some more work on the Super Doom TV graphic elements over the long weekend. I keep going back and forward in my mind about new item sprites to fit the Smash TV theme. Where I'm at currently is that title pics, intermission, hud elements and menu logo are all surrounding the gameplay, and don't really change that familiar core experience. So at the moment i'm on the no side.

 

But I might dabble with it at some point...

 

[reaction]

 

Sweet, if you do decide to dabble I've got some options here as well:
 

Spoiler

FoodPieces.zip

ScoreTreasury.zip

Checkpoints.zip

 

[roadworx]

hey, i'll also take map28 i think. i have a good idea as to what i could do for it

[Lorcav]

2 hours ago, roadworx said:

hey, i'll also take map28 i think. i have a good idea as to what i could do for it

 

Done!

[Eon Toad]

Here's a demo of what I have so far for map 5, Meet My Twin

 

This is the first half of the map for all difficulties. Then different difficulties open up different teleporters for the player to backtrack through alternate versions of the map that I'm still building.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ixgseg7aqgob1/5_-_Meet_My_Twin

[Lorcav]

1 hour ago, Eon Toad said:

Here's a demo of what I have so far for map 5, Meet My Twin

 

This is the first half of the map for all difficulties. Then different difficulties open up different teleporters for the player to backtrack through alternate versions of the map that I'm still building.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ixgseg7aqgob1/5_-_Meet_My_Twin

 

That sounds like an interesting take on the prompt. I played through what you have and it seems good so far, I liked your chairs.

 

Spoiler

The plasma isn't currently tagged as a secret (if it's intended to be a secret?)

 

[Lorcav]

This is where I've got to with some of the additional graphics...

 

 

 

On the intermission screen, I think it's maybe a bit too busy, so might dial it back a bit and I want to make the background more like TV screens, but not sure how to do that yet.

[Treehouseminis]

I can take map26 "Slaughter em"  sounds like a simple enough prompt!  Also love the custom graphics posted so far.

[Eon Toad]

6 hours ago, Lorcav said:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

The plasma isn't currently tagged as a secret (if it's intended to be a secret?)

 

 

Any objections if I keep secrets untagged on this map since each difficultly will have its own second half with its own secrets?

[Lorcav]

6 hours ago, Treehouseminis said:

I can take map26 "Slaughter em"  sounds like a simple enough prompt!  Also love the custom graphics posted so far.

 

Thanks!

 

Map 26 is all yours

[Lorcav]

6 hours ago, Eon Toad said:

 

Any objections if I keep secrets untagged on this map since each difficultly will have its own second half with its own secrets?

 

Yeah I think that can work, as long as there's nothing needed to progress hidden too obscurely

[Eon Toad]

I made a nearly final version of the map then reread the prompt and realized the UV version of the map might be too dark and hellish for the theme. If it's not a good fit for the project, I can go back to the drawing board.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ixgseg7aqgob1/5_-_Meet_My_Twin

 

 

[Lorcav]

5 hours ago, Eon Toad said:

I made a nearly final version of the map then reread the prompt and realized the UV version of the map might be too dark and hellish for the theme. If it's not a good fit for the project, I can go back to the drawing board.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ixgseg7aqgob1/5_-_Meet_My_Twin

 

 

 

I played through on all three difficulties and it was good. The ammo is a definite challenge on UV, but once you realise that and can ration, use berserk for the minor characters, it's doable.

 

I totally don't mind the hellish passageway at all, especially as it's connecting two more sci-fi tech areas. Good music choice as well, what is it?

 

Were you going to stick with the map prompt for the title, or go with something new?

 

Spoiler

Going back to my previous comment, every difficulty level has the same start section, then it's three different routes after you get the red key. So the plasma could be a secret in this section as everyone has a chance to get it initially or backtrack for it?

 

I was missing two enemies on UV, I think one was an errant lost soul, but you do have a UV mancubus living in the void:

 

[Eon Toad]

The music is Asteroid Dance part 1 from the Tyrian soundtrack (great game with a killer midi soundtrack I'm surprised isn't used more often in Doom.)

 

For the final version I'll do a thorough check that everything is tagged with the correct difficulty, so nothing shows up toward the kill count that isn't supposed to, and give void manc his eviction notice.

[RED77]

5 minutes ago, Eon Toad said:

The music is Asteroid Dance part 1 from the Tyrian soundtrack (great game with a killer midi soundtrack I'm surprised isn't used more often in Doom.)

 

Amazing game and soundtrack. I try to use one of these songs for a level I made for a CP some months ago, but it would not fitted with the general theme. such a shame. 

[Lorcav]

2 hours ago, Eon Toad said:

The music is Asteroid Dance part 1 from the Tyrian soundtrack (great game with a killer midi soundtrack I'm surprised isn't used more often in Doom.)

 

 

Gonna have to track this down and give it a listen!

[Eon Toad]

1 hour ago, Lorcav said:

 

Gonna have to track this down and give it a listen!

 

The game is free on gog in case you're interested, and I think it also comes with a download of the soundtrack.