Carnevil Posted March 25, 2003 Didn't gamespy.com use to do these? Didn't they have one with Gordon Freeman and the Doomcrate? Did I just open with two, now THREE questions? Anyway, the current grudge match of the moment (since I have no idea how often I'll do these, if they even are at a regular time interval), which do you personally like better: dwango5 map1, or ST's d2dm1? Does anyone even care? IS THAT ANOTHER QUESTION? Vote. Discuss. Fart (no don't do that). 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted March 25, 2003 Post screenies of all the skulltag dm maps, i can't hardly remember which ones they are. 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted March 25, 2003 999cop said:Post screenies of all the skulltag dm maps, i can't hardly remember which ones they are. Yes master. 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted March 25, 2003 boris said:D2DM6!!! meh, we're comparing similar maps :P 0 Share this post Link to post
BlueSonnet Posted March 25, 2003 Hmm, D2DM1 does have the grenade launcher.... 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted March 25, 2003 d5m1 is better than st's d2dm1 in this case obviously, but it fails to be ultimate for 1vs1, however it suits in ffa 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted March 25, 2003 999cop said:d5m1 is better than st's d2dm1 in this case obviously, -but- it fails to be ultimate for 1vs1, however it suits in ffa You mean because? 0 Share this post Link to post
frwl Posted March 26, 2003 Dwango5 map01 wins a played-it-so-much-on-zdaemon-that-it-sucks award, where as D2DM1 is kewl. 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted March 26, 2003 999cop said:but it fails to be ultimate for 1vs1, however it suits in ffa that refers to d5m1 d2dm1 is just ok for anything, but it isn't a very good map imo, there's just not much special about the map. 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted March 26, 2003 999cop said:that refers to d5m1 d2dm1 is just ok for anything, but it isn't a very good map imo, there's just not much special about the map. And what's so special about d5m1? 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted March 26, 2003 Carnevil said:And what's so special about d5m1? http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6540 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted March 26, 2003 999cop said:http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6540 That's just an analysis of the map. Nothing I see there makes it a "special" map. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. 0 Share this post Link to post
Zakath Posted March 26, 2003 Carnevil said:That's just an analysis of the map. Nothing I see there makes it a "special" map. Heh, that's what I said to myself too... Some people have no taste these days.... :( 0 Share this post Link to post
Zakath Posted March 27, 2003 BlueSonnet said:Hmm, D2DM1 does have the grenade launcher.... Let me NOT forget to add, it has the Railgun too. AND it has the DoomSphere... 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted March 27, 2003 Carnevil said:That's just an analysis of the map. Nothing I see there makes it a "special" map. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. That analysis of mine includes the good points about the level in my own personal perspective, well what's so great about std2dm1? except it's got a new grenade launcher and a new power-up item... 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted March 27, 2003 999cop said:That analysis of mine includes the good points about the level in my own personal perspective, well what's so great about std2dm1? except it's got a new grenade launcher and a new power-up item... What's so great about D2DM1? - Very aesthetically pleasing. - A field that is the perfect size for shotgun fights. - It is also the perfect size for dodging plasma spam. (NOTE: These two points are key: they promote that the most SKILLED player will win; not the one that can get to the BFG first. Someone who spams with plasma will not win, whereas someone who knows how to use it correctly will.) - Has a very good risk/reward ratio. The better stuff is in the level, the riskier it is to get (ex. the doomsphere). - Has a layout that promotes mind games (ex. if someone is out in the field and you're inside, you can trick the guy on the outside to make him think you're coming out at a different location, so that you can get into the field more safely). - Introduces some of the new elements of Skulltag (new weapons, powerups, etc. In general this is crucial for a first level. Of course, you don't want to give away the farm :) ). - It's also balanced, meaning there's many ways to win on the level. Plus, they all involve skill. Runaway grenades beat SSG attacks which beats doomsphere + chaingun which beats runaway grenades. - IT HAS NOT BEEN PLAYED 97239487238 TIMES ON ZDAEMON. Anyway, feel free to debate. 0 Share this post Link to post
Zakath Posted March 27, 2003 Carnevil said:What's so great about D2DM1? - Very aesthetically pleasing. - A field that is the perfect size for shotgun fights. - It is also the perfect size for dodging plasma spam. (NOTE: These two points are key: they promote that the most SKILLED player will win; not the one that can get to the BFG first. Someone who spams with plasma will not win, whereas someone who knows how to use it correctly will.) - Has a very good risk/reward ratio. The better stuff is in the level, the riskier it is to get (ex. the doomsphere). - Has a layout that promotes mind games (ex. if someone is out in the field and you're inside, you can trick the guy on the outside to make him think you're coming out at a different location, so that you can get into the field more safely). - Introduces some of the new elements of Skulltag (new weapons, powerups, etc. In general this is crucial for a first level. Of course, you don't want to give away the farm :) ). - It's also balanced, meaning there's many ways to win on the level. Plus, they all involve skill. Runaway grenades beat SSG attacks which beats doomsphere + chaingun which beats runaway grenades. - IT HAS NOT BEEN PLAYED 97239487238 TIMES ON ZDAEMON. Anyway, feel free to debate. Yep, you're going to have alot of programming to do with those bots..... Not to mention: ''Teaching'' as well ;) 0 Share this post Link to post
dieKatze88 Posted April 2, 2003 carn is right, but soon if everyone plays d2dm1 then were all going to be smacking carn with a baseball bat telling him to change it 0 Share this post Link to post