Classic Doom - New Update on Steam

[Panzermann11]

A small nit-pick, I know, but I'm kinda disappointed the Kex port doesn't feature the goofy quit confirmation messages, alongside with the Nightmare confirmation message, something the Unity port and the original DOS version had. The Quake remaster had them and you could choose to disable or enable them. They also missed an opportunity to add Buckethead's songs as an option for Sigil when you use the remixed songs.

Edited August 10 by Panzermann11

[RataUnderground]

20 seconds in and I'm already in the top 0,1% players. Thats fun : p

 

[bobbie424242]

4 minutes ago, Plashe said:

yeah that doesn't do anything, someone on the steam thread said that the game's fps is locked to what your monitor is set at for whatever reason

 

You can unlock framerate with cl_engineFPS -1. V-sync must be disabled for this to work.

Also see this post for other possible solutions.

[NightFright]

My immediate nitpick for the port right now:

If possible, music should be continuous when (quick)loading a game. Having the track start from the beginning with each load is kinda annoying.

[kevansevans]

1 hour ago, RataUnderground said:

20 seconds in and I'm already in the top 0,1% players. Thats fun : p

 

 

You joke, but I have seen enough new players that just simply do not understand the language of secret finding, which I guess is more from modern games simply not doing Doom styled secrets anymore.

 

In regards to my experience: Anyone having sudden frame drops? Like, really really bad frame drops that freeze the game for a half second, but the game sim is still running underneath?

[blueyosh43]

Love the vault and all the new (old) shit inside. Not being able to cycle through the images while they're full sized is very annoying however. 

[Plashe]

14 minutes ago, bobbie424242 said:

 

You can unlock framerate with cl_engineFPS -1. V-sync must be disabled for this to work.

Also see this post for other possible solutions.

thank you

[UnluckySpade7]

This is a dream come true for me, so much customisation here. hopefully Romero's E1 remake levels and Perquisite Strata X can be uploaded to the mod browser for a truly complete package.

[Chang O'Brian]

What's the proper compatibility level for "Legacy of Rust" played in other source ports?

[gemini0]

MBF21. GZDoom crashes and generally malfunctions quite a bit with it, though, so be careful.

[Dagazur]

The scoreboard in multiplayer saying "kills" instead of "frags" makes me die a little inside 😫

[Kaapeli47]

If someone from Id or Nightdive, or anyone else that worked on the official port, could answer this, I'd appreciate it. I may also email them about this.
Are the new official wads technically commercial? I'm only asking because owning the game through Steam is the only way to own them right now, and multiplayer sourceports like Zandronum and Odamex have ways of auto-distributing wads to the player that are necessary to have in a server in order to connect to it and play on it.

 

Say someone has DOOM + DOOM II on Steam, and they host the new official deathmatch levels (iddm1.wad) on a public Zandronum server. A player joins that Zandronum server using Doomseeker, the most common server browser used for Zandronum, which downloads the necessary wads for the player from the repository link the server hoster has set for the server. Now the player has iddm1.wad without necessarily having DOOM + DOOM II bought on Steam, but has a valid copy of Doom2.wad.

Is this fine, or will Id, Bethesda, Nightdive and/or Machine Games come after the server hoster or the whole of Zandronum for exercising illegal distribution unbeknownst to them? Or - as impractical as it would be for server hosting - should multiplayer sourceports instead treat these new official wads like Plutonia, TNT, the Master Levels and No Rest for the Living, i.e. as IWADs or commercial PWADs?

Edited August 9 by Kaapeli47

[Rampy470]

Alright been playing through good old KDITD to get a feel of it and complaints up first:

• It's quiet. Like really quiet. Had to jack up my PC volume to like 50 for it to sound right and some music can still sound way too quiet.
• Without using the cl_engineFPS -1 console command fast movement (especially fast turning) gets weirdly jittery.
• The killcount for the 100 chainsaw kills achievement isn't incrementing.
• OG soundtrack still doesn't loop properly. This is definitely the biggest issue here.

Outside of that, byootiful. Loved flipping through the vault especially.

[wheelsbot7]

Does this new version include freelook? That was always my favorite new feature from sourceports.

[Gez]

2 minutes ago, Kaapeli47 said:

Are the new official wads technically commercial? I'm only asking because owning the game through Steam is the only way to own them right now

Steam, or GOG.com, or Epic, or MS store... I suppose with some technical chops you could also rip it from an Xbox or Playstation or Switch. And it was a free update, even for those who only one of the two games (Ultimate Doom or Doom II).

 

It's not at all a Steam exclusive.

[gemini0]

1 minute ago, wheelsbot7 said:

Does this new version include freelook? That was always my favorite new feature from sourceports.

No, it does not. This is a really big pain in the ass when using the Immolator/Incinerator (whichever one it is, I've heard both).

[Doomkid]

Considering a good chunk of the maps are UDM3 and UDMX remixes, I'm going to wager it's a completely free to distribute WAD

 

edit: Responding to Kaapeli47, naturally

[sdate]

any word on source releases?

[Gez]

4 minutes ago, gemini0 said:

No, it does not. This is a really big pain in the ass when using the Immolator/Incinerator (whichever one it is, I've heard both).

Amusingly it's the other weapon that has two different names internally. The Incinerator (plasma rifle replacement) is just the Incinerator. The Calamity Blade (BFG replacement) is also the Heatwave.

[Rampy470]

14 minutes ago, Rampy470 said:

• The killcount for the 100 chainsaw kills achievement isn't incrementing.

Okay, scratch that: it IS incrementing, just not on Doom 1. Only on Doom 2. Strange but minor.

[ZeroTheEro]

Oh, lovely. I finally got home after a miserable day of rain on and off, and then I saw the news.

 

I also realized that the Doom + Doom II update replaces The Ultimate Doom in my Steam lineup, and Doom II remains the Unity port. This will do nicely if I need to cross-ref things between ports :D

[Kaapeli47]

24 minutes ago, Gez said:

Steam, or GOG.com, or Epic, or MS store... I suppose with some technical chops you could also rip it from an Xbox or Playstation or Switch. And it was a free update, even for those who only one of the two games (Ultimate Doom or Doom II).

 

It's not at all a Steam exclusive.

 

23 minutes ago, Doomkid said:

Considering a good chunk of the maps are UDM3 and UDMX remixes, I'm going to wager it's a completely free to distribute WAD

 

edit: Responding to Kaapeli47, naturally

 

Thanks for replying, Gez and Doomkid! I also checked inside the new wads in SLADE and they have WADINFO lumps containing information and descriptions of the files. They say nothing about distributing though, so I'm guessing it's maybe fine for people to upload them anywhere? Of course with proper credits mentioned.

[Gothic]

Are the rusty textures from Spirit Drains taken from Doom 3, or are those brand new?

[Rampy470]

20 minutes ago, Rampy470 said:

Okay, scratch that: it IS incrementing, just not on Doom 1. Only on Doom 2. Strange but minor.

Same goes for the "beat any level on UV with all kills without taking damage" one. No Doom 1, just Doom 2.

[Maximum Matt]

But are they releasing Maximum Doom, tho?

[Rampy470]

Cheats work on Nightmare mode in this port lol.

[Panzermann11]

14 hours ago, DaliVinci said:

Ancient Egyptian god of the underworld. Not sure how related to Doom it is.

I'm not sure if this is answered already, but apparently, Nightdive internally names their remasters after Egyptian gods. For example, the executable for Blood: Fresh Supply is called "Anuket", and PowerSlave: Exhumed is named after Anubis.

[Rampy470]

12 minutes ago, Panzermann11 said:

I'm not sure if this is answered already, but apparently, Nightdive internally names their remasters after Egyptian gods. For example, the executable for Blood: Fresh Supply is called "Anuket", and PowerSlave: Exhumed is named after Anubis.

Could be wrong but that's probably a reference to how it was first cooked up for Powerslave EX.

[LuciferSam86]

1 hour ago, sdate said:

any word on source releases?

Since it's a full kex re-implementetion of all the standards ( vanilla / boom / mbf / mbf21 ) I think will not be any source releases about the code .

 

Instead you have already the wads for modders with the resources of the new wad. 

 

Expect a release of how the new id24 standard works with documentation when the guys will have free time, so source port devs can implement them if they're interested. 

[Rampy470]

There's actually a lot of weird sound cutoff stuff happening. Easiest example is the eye button at the very beginning of E3M1 where it barely gets to play before it gets cut off by the sound of the floor raising.