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AtimZarr1

Classic Doom - New Update on Steam

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I have bought the GOG release and played it for some hours. The Performance of this port is really very good. Playing on a 5120x1440 monitor and the framerate is really good. A really solid performance and plays very well.

 

The new episode makes a very robust impression to me. I like it. And the use of all those beta textures and sprites fits very well in an official release.

 

The ID vault is very informative and nice to see and read.

 

Unfortunately i was not able to connect to Bethesda.net to look for mods, but i will retry later.

 

And the music... Andrew Hulshult's IDKFA soundtrack for DOOM is my favorite.

Before this new official release there were some DOOM2 tracks from him at YouTube and i was waiting and hoping he finishes the DOOM 2 soundtrack. And now he did it, yeah!

 

Those older DOOM2 songs from him at YouTube could have been included as variants for those songs which are used with multiple maps, but that is not hard to create a PWAD with Slade3.

 

 

All in all this new official release is a very well collection of the worlds best game. Really good work!

 

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Really excited about this! Everything is just ready to play right there wow! Master Levels all compiled too without jumping through hoops. Really cool. New Episode looks really good so far as well, love the chairs.

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The mod browser is going to need some serious extras in the filtering department, I think. It's already becoming rather unfriendly to look through.

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Ooh something cool: in Common.kpf\vault\sounds\pre-beta\, the DEATH1.WAV is the death scream but extended with an extra bit of a guy at the beginning screaming "no!". So wherever it's from, it's not the Sound Ideas sound that Decino speculated it could be in this video. Maybe it was just Bobby screaming this entire time.

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So only the new weapons and not monsters are using DEHACKED?

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Just now, JXC said:

So only the new weapons and not monsters are using DEHACKED?

Both are DEHACKED, they're all MBF21.

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1 hour ago, Gothic said:

Are the rusty textures from Spirit Drains taken from Doom 3, or are those brand new?

In the readme file within the wad, they are credited to the level author (Thomas Carter, I believe it said?)

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18 minutes ago, Rampy470 said:

Ooh something cool: in Common.kpf\vault\sounds\pre-beta\, the DEATH1.WAV is the death scream but extended with an extra bit of a guy at the beginning screaming "no!". So wherever it's from, it's not the Sound Ideas sound that Decino speculated it could be in this video. Maybe it was just Bobby screaming this entire time.

Also FLSHRP.WAV is an unedited version of the DSSLOP gore sound. Sounds like someone making noises with a straw or a wet plastic bag or something. Another mystery (sort of) solved perhaps?

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For years I have wanted a new official episode with new enemies and weapons. My prayers have finally been answered.

 

Can't wait to get wired into this later on.

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8 hours ago, Antroid said:

Yeah, I just tried it and the input delay by default is horrendous. It's like half a second at least and feels more sluggish than SNES doom.

 

HOWEVER! If I turn off Vertical Sync, it fixes itself and becomes fully playable and normal.

 

yep turning vsync off made it play like trusty ol DSDA again haha!

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Anyone else having problems with every mod you've downloaded already. Start re-installing itself and then locking you in the mod/play menu with no escape except to close the application? 😓

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5 hours ago, Duffking said:

@Edward850 is the presence of a choice between D3D/Vulkan and Software an implication that this port is fully hardware rendered? If it is, is there a way to unlock the mouse currently and have freelook?

It doesn't imply that at all, it's just different ways of getting the frame buffer to the screen. There is no hidden vertical look, that function straight up doesn't exist in Doom, and wouldn't be coherent to implement.

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Regarding the masses of WADs posted, I think being able to filter by a minimum number of Likes would be nice, i.e. filter out anything below a set number like 5, 10, etc. Similarly, being able to follow certain uploaders to filter for their uploads specifically - that way people can follow more prolific mappers.

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4 minutes ago, AtimZarr1 said:

Regarding the masses of WADs posted, I think being able to filter by a minimum number of Likes would be nice, i.e. filter out anything below a set number like 5, 10, etc. Similarly, being able to follow certain uploaders to filter for their uploads specifically - that way people can follow more prolific mappers.

Searching for Doomkid maps right now is a nightmare, so yes, that would be quite nice...

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3 minutes ago, AtimZarr1 said:

Regarding the masses of WADs posted, I think being able to filter by a minimum number of Likes would be nice, i.e. filter out anything below a set number like 5, 10, etc. Similarly, being able to follow certain uploaders to filter for their uploads specifically - that way people can follow more prolific mappers.

I concur. I would also prefer for “subscribe” to be changed to “download” and you could still have a subscribe button to follow an uploader’s output for future use etc. I was initially stumped by the lack of a download button for mods.

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4 hours ago, Kroc said:

I have the strangest bug with audio -- I'm connected to bluetooth audio and when the game starts the volume is super loud and the tone goes flat (like an equaliser has just been turned off) but changing the volume in Windows does nothing! I can set it to 0 and it's still going. Yes, I can change volume in game, it has to be 20% or less to be back to "normal" but I've essentially lost Windows' audio control.

 

yeah same here, it raped my ears initially...

 

win11 x64 laptop, intel-based, realtek audio, bt5 earbuds

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@Doomkid Are you by any chance "Doomkid92" on the WAD releases?
If so, awesome! and I'll get to downloading your stuff immediately.

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First map of LoR down, and I need to say something.

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I was once told on these very boards that id would never try to out-ZDoom ZDoom. What a difference a decade makes.

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3 minutes ago, skillsaw said:

I'm a bit out of the loop -- is anyone allowed to upload any wad to the official port now? I see Ancient Aliens in the screenshot a couple posts above but I didn't upload or go through any approval process. Can I be sure the file hasn't been tampered with? It has my real name attached to it and I'm not happy to see it up there, possibly modified with who knows what.

Anyone is allowed to upload any wad to the mod browser, there's been multiple uploads of ancient aliens and valiant. Id recommend you report those reuploads if you have DOOM + DOOM II.

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2 hours ago, Maximum Matt said:

But are they releasing Maximum Doom, tho?

Probably not, because that was id Software's answer to the shovelware compilations D!ZONE and Demon Gate, and like most of those addon discs they sometimes never included the text files to credit the authors of the 90s.

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There seems to be a strange effect when I try to apply the vanilla COMPLVL lump on my limit-removing wad (Flesharmonic), here are the lump + console outputs (D_RegisterGameSim: Applying XXXXX compatibility) in the different cases:
- Without lump: Boom
- vanilla: Boom
- mbf21: MBF21
- boom: -complevel 9

The most disturbing thing is that vanilla does not work

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6 minutes ago, skillsaw said:

I'm a bit out of the loop -- is anyone allowed to upload any wad to the official port now? I see Ancient Aliens in the screenshot a couple posts above but I didn't upload or go through any approval process. Can I be sure the file hasn't been tampered with? It has my real name attached to it and I'm not happy to see it up there, possibly modified with who knows what.

Ever since the doors opened on the new release (literally a day ago), a massive wave of WADs have been uploaded on the servers, including commercial stuff like TCs and unauthorized uploads of known MegaWADs.

You can report this type of stuff in the meanwhile, not sure how long it will take to, but it's our best course of action for now.

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so is the explanation for the GPL stuff "we reimplemented it ourselves without using the GPL code"?

 

reading the early part of the thread, that's all a bit unclear to me

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14 minutes ago, skillsaw said:

I'm a bit out of the loop -- is anyone allowed to upload any wad to the official port now? I see Ancient Aliens in the screenshot a couple posts above but I didn't upload or go through any approval process. Can I be sure the file hasn't been tampered with? It has my real name attached to it and I'm not happy to see it up there, possibly modified with who knows what.

 

I do not think the current system will last. The real hope that I have is that, however unlikely it is, they implement an idgames browser in the future instead, because that way at least wad ownership is verified. I like how open the new port is with allowing people to play any wad they want, but the current upload system is a mess for obvious reasons that we're watching unfold in real time.

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So, to sum it up...

- Before: One curated PWAD from id every couple of months

- Now: Hundreds of PWADs uploaded by anyone on a daily basis

Am I getting that right? xD 

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Pretty much. And a lot of unauthorized stuff, including commercial stuff.

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