Saddam Hussein has been captured!

[Sharessa]

Job said:

Hitler got "elected" into office too, just like Bush. And after a bit, Adolf appointed himself dictator. Bush still has a good couple months to make his move yet.

Bah, Hitler was just copying Julius Caesar. There hasnt been a new political idea in 1,000 years. Before American Imperialism, there was Brittain, Spain, Portugal, the Catholics, the Moslems, Rome, Greece, Persia.

History repeats itself, and it gets louder each time. Or perhaps the echoes just fade.

[Shadow Wolf]

about time...........

[fraggle]

Cyb said:

As for Bush being Hitler, I have to laugh at that. First off Bush isn't a dictator, he's elected

Uh, didnt Gore get more votes than Bush?

[DooMBoy]

Yes. Bush did NOT win fairly.

[Shadow Wolf]

Doomboy said

Bush did not win fairly
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damn electoral college

[fodders]

Damn Supreme Court :P

[The Ultimate DooMer]

Damn corruption...

[Scabbed Angel]

A little insight from Michael Moore. . .

"We Finally Got Our Frankenstein... and He Was In a Spider Hole! -- by Michael Moore


Thank God Saddam is finally back in American hands! He must have really missed us. Man, he sure looked bad! But, at least he got a free dental exam today. That's something most Americans can't get.

America used to like Saddam. We LOVED Saddam. We funded him. We armed him. We helped him gas Iranian troops.

But then he screwed up. He invaded the dictatorship of Kuwait and, in doing so, did the worst thing imaginable -- he threatened an even BETTER friend of ours: the dictatorship of Saudi Arabia, and its vast oil reserves. The Bushes and the Saudi royal family were and are close business partners, and Saddam, back in 1990, committed a royal blunder by getting a little too close to their wealthy holdings. Things went downhill for Saddam from there.

But it wasn't always that way. Saddam was our good friend and ally. We supported his regime. It wasn’t the first time we had helped a murderer. We liked playing Dr. Frankenstein. We created a lot of monsters -- the Shah of Iran, Somoza of Nicaragua, Pinochet of Chile -- and then we expressed ignorance or shock when they ran amok and massacred people. We liked Saddam because he was willing to fight the Ayatollah. So we made sure that he got billions of dollars to purchase weapons. Weapons of mass destruction. That's right, he had them. We should know -- we gave them to him!

We allowed and encouraged American corporations to do business with Saddam in the 1980s. That's how he got chemical and biological agents so he could use them in chemical and biological weapons. Here's the list of some of the stuff we sent him (according to a 1994 U.S. Senate report):
* Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.
* Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.
* Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart.
* Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.
* Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.
* Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance.

And here are some of the American corporations who helped to prop Saddam up by doing business with him: AT&T, Bechtel, Caterpillar, Dow Chemical, Dupont, Kodak, Hewlett-Packard, and IBM (for a full list of companies and descriptions of how they helped Saddam, click here.

We were so cozy with dear old Saddam that we decided to feed him satellite images so he could locate where the Iranian troops were. We pretty much knew how he would use the information, and sure enough, as soon as we sent him the spy photos, he gassed those troops. And we kept quiet. Because he was our friend, and the Iranians were the "enemy." A year after he first gassed the Iranians, we reestablished full diplomatic relations with him!

Later he gassed his own people, the Kurds. You would think that would force us to disassociate ourselves from him. Congress tried to impose economic sanctions on Saddam, but the Reagan White House quickly rejected that idea -- they wouldn’t let anything derail their good buddy Saddam. We had a virtual love fest with this Frankenstein whom we (in part) created.

And, just like the mythical Frankenstein, Saddam eventually spun out of control. He would no longer do what he was told by his master. Saddam had to be caught. And now that he has been brought back from the wilderness, perhaps he will have something to say about his creators. Maybe we can learn something... interesting. Maybe Don Rumsfeld could smile and shake Saddam's hand again. Just like he did when he went to see him in 1983 (click here to see the photo).

Maybe we never would have been in the situation we're in if Rumsfeld, Bush, Sr., and company hadn't been so excited back in the 80s about their friendly monster in the desert.

Meanwhile, anybody know where the guy is who killed 3,000 people on 9/11? Our other Frankenstein?? Maybe he's in a mouse hole.

So many of our little monsters, so little time before the next election.

Stay strong, Democratic candidates. Quit sounding like a bunch of wusses. These bastards sent us to war on a lie, the killing will not stop, the Arab world hates us with a passion, and we will pay for this out of our pockets for years to come. Nothing that happened today (or in the past 9 months) has made us ONE BIT safer in our post-9/11 world. Saddam was never a threat to our national security.

Only our desire to play Dr. Frankenstein dooms us all.

Yours,

Michael Moore

[Sharessa]

Michael Moore rules.

[Scabbed Angel]

Hell yeah!

[Job]

the_Danarchist said:

Michael Moore rules.

[shamelssplug]You should read his book, "Dude, Where's My Country?"[/shamelessplug]

[m0l0t0v]

Michael Moore for president!

[fodders]

Jesus! How quick was that? Dolls on sale

[DOOM Anomaly]

That beard looks removeable. :D

Hahah, I think they measured the arms and body wrong. :P

[Ichor]

He looks a bit like Bluto.

[Sharessa]

Now all we need is Peacekeeper Popeye.

[fodders]

:P

[Ultraviolet]

http://cagle.slate.msn.com//news/SaddamCaptured/Saddam031217/wasserman.gif

http://cagle.slate.msn.com//news/SaddamCaptured/Captured-Saddam-gifs/2/Saddam-Hussein-%26-Africa.gif

For the pure comic value, I'm going to go home and play C&C Red Alert 2, US and Britain vs. Iraq and France (and throw Libya in so it's 3 on 2, set difficulty high, etc). Hmm, might do some tweaking to take away Iraqi and Libyan air force abilities, but leave France with a full tech-tree. Hell, I should create a desert map for this... I'll make it a Baghdad defense scenario. Lots of oil rigs to capture for money. I'll go ahead and have Iraq start off with plenty of WMD so maybe they'll have a fighting chance and such.

[DooMBoy]

The Ultimate DooMer said:

Damn corruption...

Well thank God for 2004, maybe then we'll get a suitable President. :P

[Sharessa]

That reminds me...I still need to register.

[Ultraviolet]

Is there a site that gives a current, unbiased comparison of candidates?

EDIT: WHOA I JUST GOT PROMOTED TO FORUM STAPLE!

[The Ultimate DooMer]

DooMBoy said:

Well thank God for 2004, maybe then we'll get a suitable President. :P

I think not. Remember - after the elections, Bush still becomes president, win or lose.

Ultraviolet said:

EDIT: WHOA I JUST GOT PROMOTED TO FORUM STAPLE!

Check your postcount...

[Arno]

Ultraviolet said:

Is there a site that gives a current, unbiased comparison of candidates?

Is such a thing even possible?

[insertwackynamehere]

I don't get it. Even if you are against the war, how can you side with Saddam?!

[Sharessa]

Who was siding with Saddam?

[fodders]

insertwackynamehere said:

I don't get it. Even if you are against the war, how can you side with Saddam?!

Nobody with any morals could side with him, but that's not a reason to slaughter 10,000 innocents. There's a guy lives near me I ain't too keen on, but I ain't gonna burn his house down with his wife and kids inside 'coz of it am I?

[Gate_Keeper]

That not Saddam you ass
Thats his brother, Mr. Potatohead

[Shadow Wolf]

no, go away

[Grimm]

Dammit, can I ever post something and NOT get flamed? Oh well. I wasn't nearly serious when I said that. Damn the lack of emotion in text. I still think if you get drafted you should fight, but I've already discussed this elsewhere.

Or be a man and DON'T, you redneck dipshit assfuck.

Yep, you're right, I'm a redneck. It's amazing how people use the same fucking insults over and over, without knowing a damn thing about the perosn they're insulting. The thought must go like this: "Uh, he supports war, so he must be a redneck! Yeah!" Gee, what does that sound like? Oh yeah, the stereotypical redneck. Why don't you at least come with new ones, like "Or be a man and DON'T, you stupid suburban kid who thinks killing is cool." That would be much more accuarte for a lot of people than the redneck theory. (But still not accuarte at all.)

The draft isn't fair... it exludes wealthy and people in a position (Senator/governor/political children eg: George W. Bush) from the military

Don't be stupiud. You can't rip somone out of a political office. They have an important job to do. If other people with jobs that affect of lot of people are treated the same way, then it makes sense. Unfortunently what it comes down to is, "Who won't be missed?" Sad, cruel, but that's war.

Still, even enemy soldiers are people too. Just because they've been fed propaganda their entire lives then drafted doesn't make them any less of a human,

Damn straight.

[Ultraviolet]

Grimm said:

Yep, you're right, I'm a redneck. It's amazing how people use the same fucking insults over and over, without knowing a damn thing about the perosn they're insulting. The thought must go like this: "Uh, he supports war, so he must be a redneck! Yeah!" Gee, what does that sound like? Oh yeah, the stereotypical redneck. Why don't you at least come with new ones, like "Or be a man and DON'T, you stupid suburban kid who thinks killing is cool." That would be much more accuarte for a lot of people than the redneck theory. (But still not accuarte at all.)

I just happen to enjoy using bi-syllabic terms along with my profanity. It's an aesthetic thing, you see. Besides, by redneck I meant the gung-ho killer cowboy-mentality part, not the white trash living in Georgia/Alabama/insert state here with a stupid southern accent. The term "redneck" transcends geographic location and lifestyle (in the case of the latter only to a degree does it transcend).

Don't be stupiud. You can't rip somone out of a political office. They have an important job to do. If other people with jobs that affect of lot of people are treated the same way, then it makes sense. Unfortunently what it comes down to is, "Who won't be missed?" Sad, cruel, but that's war.

The point is that when something is wrong it must be given attention and FIXED. You can't go "Oh, well, that's just the sad truth! There's nothing we can do!"

As individuals, we have our own responsibilities to humanity. The government has those same responsibilities, however, we individuals must "stick it to the man" when they neglect those.