Activision woes could affect Doom 3's release date

[Ichor]

Oops, I pasted in the wrong link. I'll fix it.

[Job]

Arioch said:

And Doom 3 is (soy) saucy.

Kikkoman! Kikkoman!

Behold the power of soy.

[dsm]

Ichor said:

And to top things off this happens.

Lol to your previous mistake (albeit a mistake, it was a golden mistake ;-P).
To these news: Well, well, I guess those anticipating Half-Life 2 are out for Russian blood now - Russian pirate blood.

[Shaviro]

dsm said:

To these news: Well, well, I guess those anticipating Half-Life 2 are out for Russian blood now - Russian pirate blood.

hehe. It's the 3057 pirates! OMG#"%!"#%¤#" :P
Well. I think Valve is trying to implement all the incredible things they promised. The leaked beta thingie showed how much they had lied about HL2. The levels were incredibly simple and linear, and the so-called AI was scripted almost all the way through. For instance, the scene where the Player walks into a house, closes the door and puts a desk up against the door so the 'monsters' can get in. A guy tried to kill the 'monsters' before walking into the house, but guess what, the door was still kicked open, even though there was no 'monster' to do the actual kicking. Very disappointing.

[Demonic]

Im sorry but Im getting a little annoyed with all these promises for all these newer games that say they are coming out around a certain time and then get pushed back. I love Doom and can't wait until Doom 3 comes out but if they keep pushing it back it really starts to loss its flavor. Its kind of like when you tease your dog with a treat and keep teasing him until he just doesnt give a shit about it anymore. Thats kind of how Im starting to feel, not just about Doom 3 but other games like Halo 2 and Half life 2. Its a bad trend they are starting. But a couple of games I am looking forward to is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. oblivion lost and Far Cry they are no Doom 3 but looks interesting and best of all they are running on schedule.

[The_Tonx]

Demonic said:

Im sorry but Im getting a little annoyed with all these promises for all these newer games that say they are coming out around a certain time and then get pushed back. I love Doom and can't wait until Doom 3 comes out but if they keep pushing it back it really starts to loss its flavor. Its kind of like when you tease your dog with a treat and keep teasing him until he just doesnt give a shit about it anymore. Thats kind of how Im starting to feel, not just about Doom 3 but other games like Halo 2 and Half life 2. Its a bad trend they are starting. But a couple of games I am looking forward to is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. oblivion lost and Far Cry they are no Doom 3 but looks interesting and best of all they are running on schedule.

As for STALKER. There's a leak of that game too. I have to tell that it was a major dissapointment when I tried it out. I just cannot understand what makes it so special.
And some say that the engine beats even DOOM3 in some aspects. As for as I saw, or as far as the leak included, there was nothing than Quake 3 couldn't do. Yes, I know that it is far from beeing a complete game, but technologically it had nothing special :/

[Arioch]

Nobody (who mattered) promised you any date or time frame for Doom 3.

Valve specifically and repeatedly said HL2 would be out on 9/30/2003, though.

[Coopersville]

Demonic said:

Halo 2

Halo 2's making good progress, imo. I can't wait until March.

[Demonic]

I was not aware of a leak of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. And I was not comparing it to Doom 3 in anyway I know Doom 3 will blow it away. But I was pointing out that it will most likely be on schedule. Other than the delay and some other small complaints I think Doom 3 will be one of the best games to date(I hope anyway) except for the original Doom.

[Ichor]

It had better be better than the original Doom. Doom was a great game and if Doom 3 was worse, I could consider it a serious disappointment.

[Demonic]

Coopersville said:

Halo 2's making good progress, imo. I can't wait until March.

I read that Halo 2 is going to be delayed AGAIN!!!

[toxicfluff]

Ichor said:

It had better be better than the original Doom. Doom was a great game and if Doom 3 was worse, I could consider it a serious disappointment.

I reckon they'll be such different types of game as to not really be comparable.

[Mogul]

Arioch said:

Even if Activision is having a rough year, all the better to try to get id to release it SOONER, so their revenues can get a nice and solid boost.

That's what I thought, but I'm just relaying what I've read in GamePro.

Go figure... I don't know anything about big business.

[Ubik]

Demonic said:

Its kind of like when you tease your dog with a treat and keep teasing him until he just doesnt give a shit about it anymore.

I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER seen a dog stop begging for a treat once it's in sight.

[Scabbed Angel]

Demonic said:

Im sorry but Im getting a little annoyed with all these promises for all these newer games that say they are coming out around a certain time and then get pushed back. I love Doom and can't wait until Doom 3 comes out but if they keep pushing it back it really starts to loss its flavor. Its kind of like when you tease your dog with a treat and keep teasing him until he just doesnt give a shit about it anymore. Thats kind of how Im starting to feel, not just about Doom 3 but other games like Halo 2 and Half life 2. Its a bad trend they are starting. But a couple of games I am looking forward to is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. oblivion lost and Far Cry they are no Doom 3 but looks interesting and best of all they are running on schedule.

They never promised a relesae date (unlike valve [ha ha]) so any disapointment you feel is your own fault for believe best buy or whatever you did.

[MaximusNukeage]

i would rather wait additional months, rather than get a partialy unfinished product, or an ultra short game.

[toxicfluff]

MaximusNukeage said:

i would rather wait additional months, rather than get a partialy unfinished product, or an ultra short game.

I'd agree. Especially since this is the next Doom game - it'd be a real shame if it left a stain on the original's legacy.

[Piece_O_Mind]

ToXiCFLUFF said:

I'd agree. Especially since this is the next Doom game - it'd be a real shame if it left a stain on the original's legacy.

Just the graphics alone should be enough for it to NOT strain on its legacy. Regardless of how long the game is, I will buy it just because it's part of the DOOM series.

That's what I get for being a purist.

[toxicfluff]

The_Tonx said:

As for STALKER. There's a leak of that game too. I have to tell that it was a major dissapointment when I tried it out. I just cannot understand what makes it so special.
And some say that the engine beats even DOOM3 in some aspects. As for as I saw, or as far as the leak included, there was nothing than Quake 3 couldn't do. Yes, I know that it is far from beeing a complete game, but technologically it had nothing special :/

Personally, I thought it looked good, but it was obviously a n extremely old version; just look at the recent movies of STALKER. It's stupid to judge things on a leak.

[Mogul]

Well... yeah, if an alpha or whatever is pretty early, then you can't pass judgment.

However, if it's something that was "supposedly" farther along, like say... Half Life 2... then by all means, judge away! :D

[Demonic]

Scabbed Angel said:

They never promised a relesae date (unlike valve [ha ha]) so any disapointment you feel is your own fault for believe best buy or whatever you did.

Yes true they never gave a specific release date but they were hinting about a end of the year release. And I'm sorry but I don't believe anything anybody tells me I believe it when I see it I'm from the show me state so show me DAMN IT!!!

[Demonic]

ToXiCFLUFF said:

Personally, I thought it looked good, but it was obviously a n extremely old version; just look at the movies of STALKER. It's stupid to judge things on a leak.

Thank you I'm glad someone else can see a game that looks promising, no one ever said it was better than Doom 3 in any way. And if you judge a game by the leaked alpha then Doom 3 was not that impressive, the graphics are great but I did not see much beyond that. But from what I've seen and read about both games I think they will both turn out to be excellent games in their own respect.

[The_Tonx]

Demonic said:

Thank you I'm glad someone else can see a game that looks promising, no one ever said it was better than Doom 3 in any way. And if you judge a game by the leaked alpha then Doom 3 was not that impressive, the graphics are great but I did not see much beyond that. But from what I've seen and read about both games I think they will both turn out to be excellent games in their own respect.

Heh.. I was not saying that Stalker will be a total bull'. It's just the thing that pissed me off when everyone arond told me so many big words about Stalker and its superb engine.

As for my personal opinion then, yes, I'm curiously waiting that game. The story looks pretty interesting and engine is pretty OK and I was not only judging the thing based on that leak. I always had a doubt that the engine that so many people are praising isn't actually that good. As for me, it looks like the game has pretty good mod on ordinary engine.

As for those leaks then Stalker's alpha was the most dissapointing because it offered nothing new. From Half-Life 2's leak I was waiting something less buggy for a game that was supposed to be released about soon. But it had some nice features like ragdoll and pixel shadered liquids. But actually this pixel shadering isn't anything new because I've now played more than a year a game called Morrowind with pixel shaders. Personally I find DOOM III leak to be most impressive due its shadowing techniques and such.

That doesn't ofcourse mean that only DOOM III will be a good game. I am absolutelly sure that all of them will be very good games that I will be playing for years.

I am not judging final games by these leaks.

[Goat]

how the fuck do all these games get leaked. its insane

[Devldawg7051]

To many programmers downloading Britney Spears porn mock-ups on kazaa maybe? o.O I don't know but the whole string of game leaks is getting a bit stupid.

[Chopkinsca]

Goat said:

how the fuck do all these games get leaked. its insane

My guess is money.

[TH-555]

Coopersville said:

Halo 2's making good progress, imo. I can't wait until March.

hate to break it to you, halo2 wont be out until april-june, and if it suffers delays, it might come out xbox's third anniversery, on november 15.

Demonic said:

I read that Halo 2 is going to be delayed AGAIN!!!

halo2 technically cannot be delayed, since there is no OFFICIAL release date. but rest assured, they will announce a release date when they know for 110% sure when its coming out. word has it microsoft will negotiate with bungie sometime in february to get a release date finalized.


scratch that, a release date NOW been officially announced. the real one.

go to bungie.net

HALO2: FAll 2004

[Fredrik]

TH-555 said:

scratch that, a release date NOW been officially announced. the real one.

go to bungie.net

HALO2: FAll 2004

That is not a release date.

[Scabbed Angel]

TH-555 said:

Three posts in a row

Yeah, and posting three times in a row. Yeah, please don't do that, instead read the faq. Or use the fucking edit button! DW really needs a questionire so that people are forced to read the faq and apply what they learn.

[Fredrik]

Merged the posts.