What will the new Cyberdemon be like?

[Melfice]

BlueSonnet said:

That's quite an old picture now that i think about, not mention a design i'm not using.

Meh. People do that with my art a lot

Makes me feel sad :(

Anyway, it'd be a huge blow to all former DooM fans if the cyberdemon wasn't in, and didn't have some sort of resmbelance to his old self. That in itself to me is a pretty good reason why he's gonna be in Doom 3. Someone posted from some article somewhere that the "Soul Cube" is well-guarded. I think perhaps the Cybie is guarding it...it or the gate to hell.

[dsm]

BlueSonnet said:
Meh. People do that with my art a lot.

That was one of your art pieces? Shit.

Anyone remember that cybie design from planetdoom? What do you guys think of that one?

edit: Here's the one i'm on about
http://www.planetdoom.com/potd/index.asp?id=449638
Doesn't look very Idish to me

Simultaneously ugly and interesting, but I definitely hope the Cybie will look cooler than that - like, having its old horns more or less. That planetdoom cybie doesn't look robust enough imo - its skin needs to look a lot more solid and hard.

[Tyockell]

BlueSonnet said:

edit: Here's the one i'm on about
http://www.planetdoom.com/potd/index.asp?id=449638
Doesn't look very Idish to me

Now I have to say that looks pretty badass, If I saw something like that I'd deffinatly be running the other way.

[Darkbolt]

I like that cyb a lot i just dont like those green lights on his face reminds me of splinter cell.

[Janderson]

For the Baron: I think the BoH should be a guant and taller version of the HK. Since it is well bred, it should not only be agile, as mentioned before, but also graceful. It should seem to have an intelligence about it. I think its attacks should be mainly magical, as should its defence, hell, I think this thing should be a boss, maybe above that of even Cybie himself. Anyways...

doomedout said:
DSM, if you want the Cybie as big as you are suggesting, then how would he be able to head-butt you with his horns? Get down on all four knees?

dsm said:
You're right, that was a stupid idea - I just shelled out everything that came to mind :-)

Not so. If is basic and docile and relies upon its instincts it should be able to use the horns on its head. What other purpose would
they serve?

[dsm]

Janderson said:
hell, I think this thing should be a boss, maybe above that of even Cybie himself. Anyways...

The Baron superior to the cybie? Seriously man, what are you smoking? That idea reminded me of a comment I saw on planetdoom in which some guys speculated that the Cacodemon should be a boss (*shakes head*).

Not so. If is basic and docile and relies upon its instincts it should be able to use the horns on its head. What other purpose would
they serve?

Yeah, but if it's huge, how can it reach you with its horns? You're but a freaking ant compared to the cybie - it'd trip and fall if it tried to butt you.

It could, however, use its horns to ram objects in the environment on the same level as its head or something - perhaps to bring world objects crashing down on you.

[Jehar]

It would really suck if the cybie was the "final boos" and he had about 5 attacks that he did in a pattern ala most platformers. I like the way doom never had any bosses per se. just really big enemies that you only saw once in a while.

doom is the reason i hate bosses. if doom3 has bosses i would get pissed.

sure i dont mind a cinematic before a large enemy, but having a huge arena with a the boss making shockwaves that can damage you with his feet would be really retarded.

[Janderson]

dsm said:

The Baron superior to the cybie? Seriously man, what are you smoking? That idea reminded me of a comment I saw on planetdoom in which some guys speculated that the Cacodemon should be a boss (*shakes head*).
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Yeah, but if it's huge, how can it reach you with its horns? You're but a freaking ant compared to the cybie - it'd trip and fall if it tried to butt you.

It could, however, use its horns to ram objects in the environment on the same level as its head or something - perhaps to bring world objects crashing down on you.

Baron - I was thinking that if it was up to my description, it would be superior mentally, physically (evasion-wise), magically (projectiles and barriers) and socially (it's high in the chain so it could call other monsters).

Caco - Um, what? o_O But the Baron is on the other end of the spectrum.

Cybie - Ah, but what if he could use all fours, as mentioned before. Now that would be terrifying, a giant mecha bull demon that could charge you, when it gets tired reverts to the good ol' Rocket Launcher.

[dsm]

Janderson said:

Cybie - Ah, but what if he could use all fours, as mentioned before. Now that would be terrifying, a giant mecha bull demon that could charge you, when it gets tired reverts to the good ol' Rocket Launcher.

He would still be too big if he's as big as I suggested earlier.

[Janderson]

I'm sure that no matter how big it is it could still lower its head that little bit and send you into orbit, kinda like a giant bull.

[Tyockell]

Janderson said:

I'm sure that no matter how big it is it could still lower its head that little bit and send you into orbit, kinda like a giant bull.

yea or just squish you into the ground with them like bulls do.

[Deathmatcher]

Actually, I think this bull-stuff is beneath Cyberdemon's diginity. He's one of the most powerful demons of Doom - no Heretic's Molotaur.

[Janderson]

It's a damned goliath/titan I don't think it needs dignity, it gets all the respect it needs.

[Lectrix]

It would be cool if the cyber rammed the player, although i doubt even with full armor etc you would survive i mean hes a mountain, which is a good excuse to keep well away from it and avoid rockets. If he did have a ram/melee attack i'd like to see him smash through solid walls if he missed you, now THAT would be a nice feature imo.

Also hope they make the Spider mastermind much tougher this time round and ask for other bosses, its gonna be hard to top mr cyberdemon.

Although there is meant to be a giant jurassic-like demon in there somewhere (i think its meantioned in an old IGN artical somewhere? anyone remember?)

[Goliath]

I jsut hope that it looks cool.

[Mivalekan]

Disorder said:
I think he'll be huge. You'll probably get to fight him in a gigantic room with a very high ceiling.

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Three words: Tower of Babel.

[dsm]

Lectrix said:

Also hope they make the Spider mastermind much tougher this time round and ask for other bosses, its gonna be hard to top mr cyberdemon.

A squishy brain tougher than a powerful cyberdemon? Don't give me another such laughing fit please; I don't have nine lives like a cat.
No, I'd rather want its chaingun to be more deadly - that'd make up for the fact that Spidey is weaker.