Linguica Posted July 17, 2004 According to a pcgames.de article, Doom 3 ist das erste Spiel von id Software seit knapp 12 Jahren, das in Deutschland nicht indiziert wird! Er, and according to a Google translation, it appears that Doom 3 will not be "indexed" in Germany, which is interesting considering every id game since Wolf3D has been banned or restricted in some way. Apparently the lack of Splatterszenen helped. So German Doomers, rejoice I guess. 0 Share this post Link to post
insertwackynamehere Posted July 17, 2004 Why did Germany "list" them, or whatever in the first place? And why is Doom 3 any different? 0 Share this post Link to post
Ralphis Posted July 17, 2004 Germany has strict laws regarding censorship of violent games I'm pretty sure. 0 Share this post Link to post
Naked Snake Posted July 17, 2004 JA ES IST GUT!! Well, at least the legacy of id being banned in Germany is finally broken. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted July 17, 2004 That's good news. Not that it was impossible to get all the other games here but this will make it considerably easier. :-) And for all you outside Germany: 'Indiziert' means that the game may not be advertised in a way that is accessible to people under 18. A direct result is that it is impossible to display it openly on a shelf in a store (and which normally kills it commercially.) In no way it is forbidden to sell the game to adults if these rules are obeyed but it can make it very hard to get such games/movies, not to mention expensive and of course way too many games are censored to avoid such fate. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted July 17, 2004 Ralphis said:Germany has strict laws regarding censorship of violent games I'm pretty sure. The themes in Wolf3D can't have encouraged the German censors to be lenient towards id's games as a whole. Still, their aversion to blood and guts in games does look odd alongside their lax attitude to extreme porn. 0 Share this post Link to post
boris Posted July 17, 2004 Grazza said:Still, their aversion to blood and guts in games does look odd alongside their lax attitude to extreme porn. I dunno what porn you look at, but the porn I look at doesn't contain killings of the actors. 0 Share this post Link to post
Deathmatcher Posted July 17, 2004 @ Graf Zahl: Am geilsten find ich noch, dass nun einem Test in Zeitschriften nichts mehr im Wege steht. Endlich mal ein id-Test in der Gamestar! (I said above, that now Doom3 reviews will be allowed in print magazines - a thing that was forbidden with most previous id games) 0 Share this post Link to post
Epistax Posted July 17, 2004 Grazza said:The themes in Wolf3D can't have encouraged the German censors to be lenient towards id's games as a whole. Still, their aversion to blood and guts in games does look odd alongside their lax attitude to extreme porn. As oppose to here in America where any amount of violence is OK, but if a nipple is shown.... 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted July 17, 2004 And here in the UK, sex and violence are moderately tolerated, but lord help you if you use bad language (the top offensive phrase in Britain being "Jesus Christ!") 0 Share this post Link to post
Laguna Posted July 17, 2004 RethcirSJD said:Das icht nein ein booby! What? I think you are a little behind in your German... Die sind nicht Brüste! Or maybe it was Die sind Brüste nicht! In any case, those both say "Those are not breasts!" You said, verbatim, That icht no(negative!) a booby! At best, half-assed Germarican translation could've been: "Das ist nicht ein booby/tit/breasts!" YOU FAIL IT. 0 Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted July 17, 2004 Laguna said:What? I think you are a little behind in your German...And you're a little behind on your Simpsons... 0 Share this post Link to post
CapNapalm Posted July 17, 2004 God I love when people who don't know a word of German try and speak it. :P Oh Yeah and Wolfenstein 3D was banned here in Germany which means you could not own it legally. Return to Castle Wolfenstein was okay becuase they removed the Swastikas. So Doom 2 actually slipped through the cracks, because it is not okay to show swastikas in a Computer Game so I am really confused why Doom 2 was not also banned. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted July 17, 2004 CapNapalm said:So Doom 2 actually slipped through the cracks, because it is not okay to show swastikas in a Computer Game so this I am really confused Doom 2 was not also banned.I believe there was a special German edition of Doom2 where maps 31 and 32 were omitted (and presumably the Nazi-themed resources too?). 0 Share this post Link to post
Laguna Posted July 17, 2004 Linguica said:And you're a little behind on your Simpsons... Damn. Has it been THAT long since I've watched them? Oh well. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jon Posted July 17, 2004 CapNapalm said:And I find the title of the news post a tad bit offensive but whatever. Why? Heil is a perfectly acceptable word in common use. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted July 17, 2004 Grazza said:I believe there was a special German edition of Doom2 where maps 31 and 32 were omitted (and presumably the Nazi-themed resources too?). Yes, and id released an official patch for the German version to re-include them! 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted July 17, 2004 Jon said:Why? Heil is a perfectly acceptable word in common use. Not in this context. It's too close to 'Heil Hitler!' and saying that can cause you a lot of trouble here. 0 Share this post Link to post
Szymanski Posted July 17, 2004 Graf Zahl said:Not in this context. It's too close to 'Heil Hitler!' and saying that can cause you a lot of trouble here. <basil faulty> don't mention the war! 0 Share this post Link to post
Epistax Posted July 17, 2004 Graf Zahl said:Not in this context. It's too close to 'Heil Hitler!' and saying that can cause you a lot of trouble here. But any one of 20 synonyms for Heil wouldn't cause a problem..... I hate people 0 Share this post Link to post
Cyb Posted July 17, 2004 Graf Zahl said:Not in this context. It's too close to 'Heil Hitler!' and saying that can cause you a lot of trouble here. did you just compare doom 3 to hitler?! 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted July 17, 2004 Cyb said:did you just compare doom 3 to hitler?! No but to many Germans it may appear that Linguica did. 0 Share this post Link to post
Deathmatcher Posted July 17, 2004 When I read something like "Heil Doom3" I know imediately that this has to come from an American. No German would ever find this funny. (But of course I know that it is supposed to be funny for you Americans and this is perfectly ok for me). 0 Share this post Link to post
Mr. NobodX Posted July 18, 2004 Deathmatcher said:When I read something like "Heil Doom3" I know imediately that this has to come from an American. No German would ever find this funny. (But of course I know that it is supposed to be funny for you Americans and this is perfectly ok for me). When I read something like "Heil Doom3" I know imediately that this has to be some news regarding Doom3 and Germany. That, and the fact it look very much like "hell" (Heck, they did that joke in Wolf3d!) 0 Share this post Link to post
Ralphis Posted July 18, 2004 I saw some germans on TV saying the holocaust didn't happen. It was quite funny. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted July 18, 2004 Ralphis said:I saw some germans on TV saying the holocaust didn't happen. It was quite funny. You will find morons like that everywhere in the world. 0 Share this post Link to post