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Why? [Shotgun Guy / Sergeant]

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why is it that at the end of the game the guys with shot guns are called "Shot Gun Guy" and when your killed by them they are called "Sargents"? im not sure if this is the same for other guys but let me know. thanks

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There are several inconsistencies between the manual and the end-of-game stuff.

The obituary messages are a feature that some ports have added. The port makers clearly had to make a decision about which "official" name to go with, or else to make up their own name. If you want to know why they made the choices they did, you'd better ask them.

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Various common names of Doom monsters:

Former Human = Zombieman = Former Human Soldier

Former Human Sargeant = Shotgun Sargeant = Shotgun Guy

Former Human Commando = Heavy Weapons Dude = Chaingun Guy

Demon = Pink Demon = Bull Demon

Spider Mastermind = Mastermind = Spiderdemon

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BlueSonnet said:

Iirc their also referred to as "Possessed" in legacy.

That agrees with the names for their sprites.
SARG = Demon
TROO = Imp
POSS = Former Human
SPOS = Former Sergeant
CPOS = Former Commando
SKUL = Lost Soul
HEAD = Cacodemon
PAIN = Pain Elemental
BSPI = Arachnotron
BOS2 = Hell Knight
SKEL = Revenant
BOSS = Baron of Hell
FATT = Mancubus
SSWV = Nazi
CYBR = Cyberdemon
SPID = Spider Mastermind
VILE = Arch-Vile
BBRN = Boss Brain
KEEN = Commander Keen

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Good question, but it has been discussed before. Little Faith's post here looks quite convincing. Perhaps he can clarify what his source was.

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Little Faith said:

In the early development stages they were referred to as:

Demon Trooper (Imp) and Demon Sargeant (Demon).


EDIT, Ah you beat me to it Grazza. And even with a post of my own making.

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Linguica said:

How do you explain "SARG" and "TROO" for the demon and imp, respectively?


Sarg- Some angry retarded guy
Troo- I have no idea?

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doesn't it even call stuff by those names in the manual? Not the Doom 2 one, because I don't have it, but the Ultimate Doom one refers to them as Demon Troopers and Demon Seargents and Demon Heads (Cacos) and Possessed Humans... or maybe that was some other manual or s alpha/beta textfile I'm thinking of, but I'm fairly certain they're refered to by their sprite names somewhere.

ps to flexgalaxy, if you're going to double-post, make sure both of your posts aren't 100% worthless

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To be exact, the DOOM Bible names coincide with the abbreviations used for the sprite names (in regard to monsters from the shareware.) Check section 7.2 Actors at the page linked.

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I call the monsters "Things I should shoot."

I call the player marines "Things I should REALLY shoot. A lot."

I call CTF teammate player marines "Things I should pretend to help, while in reality scooping up all the health and ammo so I can shoot the enemy."

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they're called Shotgun guys in the game because they are different bad guys to the Seargents. Shotgun guys have a shotgun and are bald and shoot you. Seargents, on the other hand, are bald and have a shotgun and shoot you while moonwalking.

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Cyb said:

doesn't it even call stuff by those names in the manual? Not the Doom 2 one, because I don't have it, but the Ultimate Doom one refers to them as Demon Troopers and Demon Seargents and Demon Heads (Cacos) and Possessed Humans... or maybe that was some other manual or s alpha/beta textfile I'm thinking of, but I'm fairly certain they're refered to by their sprite names somewhere.


IIRC, the Press Release textfile uses the old names.

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Yes. Specifically:

Enemies

Possesed Humans: Humans covered with blood holding rifles.
Demon troops: Brown demons with spikes that shoot red fireballs.
Demon sergeant: Pink-reddish stumpy demon that bites.
Demon skull: Floating skull that shoots you with its glare.
Demon head: Very large float red head that shoots fireballs.
Bruiser: Huge boss demon with horns that shoot green fireballs.

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