188DarkRevived Posted December 16, 2005 For me it would have to be a tie between DOOM2 and Spear Of Destiny. Speaking of SOD, you forgot to mention it in the poll! 0 Share this post Link to post
KwadDamyj Posted December 16, 2005 DarkJedi188 said:For me it would have to be a tie between DOOM2 and Spear Of Destiny. Speaking of SOD, you forgot to mention it in the poll! I'm largely guessing it falls under Wolf3D. 0 Share this post Link to post
188DarkRevived Posted December 16, 2005 KwadDamyj said:I'm largely guessing it falls under Wolf3D. Yeah, but I think it would be better to label the option as "Wolfenstein-3D / Spear Of Destiny". Since there's a label which reads "Doom1 / Doom2". That way everything would be included and noone would feel left out :) 0 Share this post Link to post
baronofhell Posted December 16, 2005 Yeah but Doom 2 was a full sequel to the original Doom. Wasn't SOD kinda like an expansion pack or something? 0 Share this post Link to post
188DarkRevived Posted December 16, 2005 baronofhell said:Yeah but Doom 2 was a full sequel to the original Doom. Wasn't SOD kinda like an expansion pack or something? SOD was a full & separate prequel to the original Wolf3d. So it's the same relationship as between DOOM1 and DOOM2, but in a reverse order. 0 Share this post Link to post
Enjay Posted December 16, 2005 Doom 1/2 - why I'm here. What I've spent 12 years playing almost daily. If I don't vote this #1 then there is something wrong. Quake 1 - Good idea, introduction of new technology, not seen through to its true potential, half hearted and rushed out the door compared to what it was originally imagined to be. Too brown. Quake 2 - I like Quake 2. I know a lot of people don't and yes, it has its flaws but I do like it. Quake 3 - pointless crap and an engine vehicle, nothing more. id became a caricature of themselves with the ridiculous dark, gothic, tech-flesh imagery and level design. Nothing more than an id fanboy wankfest. For genre, UT did it far better in every criterion. Doom 3 - Biggest disappointment in gaming ever. I've spilled too many words ranting over this lacklustre game. It promised so much and yet delivered so little. Wolfenstein 3d - A classic. Simple in the extreme with an engine that means the levels are necessarily dull and can't have the re-playability or variety of Doom but it still has a certain something. eating babys - Another classic. Always good fun and filling too. However, in these days of healthy foods and lifestyles eating babies just doesn't cut it anymore. To many unknowns and too much effort to clean one to modern hygiene standards. Microwave pre-cooked ones just aren't the same either. commander keen - Grab that pogo and gogo! 0 Share this post Link to post
TheDarkArchon Posted December 16, 2005 Enjay said:eating babys - Another classic. Always good fun and filling too. However, in these days of healthy foods and lifestyles eating babies just doesn't cut it anymore. To many unknowns and too much effort to clean one to modern hygiene standards. Microwave pre-cooked ones just aren't the same either. *laughs* 0 Share this post Link to post
KwadDamyj Posted December 17, 2005 I like Quake III. =^/ Maybe because I got it for cheap just relatively recently. Has some good level design. Pretty balanced to me between the level design (item placement) and the weapon power. 0 Share this post Link to post
Belial Posted December 17, 2005 I like everything that's on the list except for Q2, D3 and the babies. Favorite would still be Doom/2 of course. 0 Share this post Link to post
ducon Posted December 17, 2005 Doom 1 and 2, Quake in single player, Quake 2 in multiplayer. 0 Share this post Link to post
Avenging Angel Posted December 18, 2005 Captain Red said:good lord. It's bad enough that quake 2 is more beloved then quake, but Wolfenstein 3D? No! No, No, No! Quake 2 is awesome, that's why.....plus there's alot of free expansions.Ed said:Quake had the most character and originality IMO. No gameplay, but it did have that. Quake 2 was Doom on planet Strogg. I may be the odd man out when I say Doom 3.. I hoped to god that Quake 4 would have been based off of the original.. Quake 2 couldn't be doom....no demons. Lol. But Doom 3 was and IS good, I agree....despite what Belial and Enjay say. I mean, why critique it or compare it extensively(anally) to the classic doom games when it's obvious that(besides storyline) they are different games in spirit, and should be played as such? Case in point, Classic Doom for Doom 3 project....great use of a great atmosphere and engine. 0 Share this post Link to post
188DarkRevived Posted December 18, 2005 Captain Red said:good lord. It's bad enough that quake 2 is more beloved then quake, but Wolfenstein 3D? No! No, No, No! Well, if ID never started off with Wolfenstein then: a.) DOOM might not have existed at all OR b.) DOOM might have existed but it would not have been the exact same DOOM that we have grown to like so much over here. It would've been a DOOM which lacked altitude-variations, lacked parallaxing skies, and had 90 degree angles. Either one or the other...Although the second choice seems to be the most likely. 0 Share this post Link to post
Captain Red Posted December 18, 2005 Dune 2 set the formula for RTS games, but that dosn't make it better then Command & Conquer. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninja_of_DooM Posted December 19, 2005 Technician said:Oh sorry demo. Right. id no longer did the shareware idea after Quake. Instead brought it straight to retail and made a demo. After GT interactive Quake shareware botch up id didn't want to continue the sales tactic. Ah how I miss the days of shareware games. More people should do it. I can't understand why people won't do it anymore. Personally I voted Doom but Quake comes in a very close 2nd. 0 Share this post Link to post
Enjay Posted December 19, 2005 Ahhh! Shareware. Although there are still thousands of products out there that use it, it's not the force it once was. And that's a shame IMO. 0 Share this post Link to post
188DarkRevived Posted December 19, 2005 Yeah, I hate the current greed of game-developers...Instead of releasing a 10-map shareware episode they release a measely 2-map demo version to just tease the hell out of you. Sometimes I wish I could travel back to 1996 and relive the shareware release of Duke3D...the last true shareware episode that I've seen before all of those crappy demos began to dominate the industry. 0 Share this post Link to post
TheDarkArchon Posted December 19, 2005 Enjay said:Ahhh! Shareware. Although there are still thousands of products out there that use it, it's not the force it once was. And that's a shame IMO. I still have a CD full of shareware stuff that included Doom, Wolf, Blake Stone, Heretic, DeeP, DCK and more besides. (Fun fact: MY first map was made in DeeP shareware: It wasn't much better than wow.wad but I was only 10 at the time.) 0 Share this post Link to post
Mivalekan Posted December 20, 2005 AgentSpork said:Doom 2 sucks Yeah but Doom 2 did bring us the SSG, revenants, arch-viles, pain elementals, hell knights, mancubi, chaingunner, and romero head. And by playing enough of your maps one could see your unusual affinity for the Revenant. :| 0 Share this post Link to post
Job Posted December 20, 2005 Technician said:Quake 2 was a great game but short. Allas Quake 2 didn't have a shareware version. Sharware died with Quake. I disagree. There was a beta test of Quake 2 offered for public download before its release. To me, that's the same thing as a demo. It had the first "episode" anyway. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted December 20, 2005 It was a pre-release demo of the first hub of the game. It had that cool mug shot that was removed. I made a gif of it. Besides I love it when they release pre-release material to the point of a hard-on, I would never consider it to be a true demo. Quake 3 had numerouse test releases which nothing made the final cut. Do you consoder those true to form ga,e demos because id always quotes never jugde their games on test releases. 0 Share this post Link to post
doom2day Posted December 20, 2005 Avenging Angel said:Quake 2 is awesome, that's why.....plus there's alot of free expansions. Quake 2 couldn't be doom....no demons. Lol. But Doom 3 was and IS good, I agree....despite what Belial and Enjay say. I mean, why critique it or compare it extensively(anally) to the classic doom games when it's obvious that(besides storyline) they are different games in spirit, and should be played as such? Case in point, Classic Doom for Doom 3 project....great use of a great atmosphere and engine. Well when people are expecting something similar to doom2/doom it would be expected of them. Doom3 was also really hard on computers... 0 Share this post Link to post