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Genders of doom monsters?

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Demons are in a constant state of pain and anguish. They kill for temporary moments of extacy. But yeah I don't think demons breed like us humans.

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From wikipedia concerning Imp (in general) gender -
"They are usually described as lively and having small stature. They are usually, but not invariably, assigned male gender."

Also from wikipedia (doom enemy list)-
"Lost Souls are consider male, while Pain Elementals are considered female."

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BlitZ said:

They are usually...assigned male gender."
"Pain Elementals are considered female."


That's because other languages need a 'sex' to describe it. Like french's la and le... it doesn't mean it's male or female, but that the word itself is masculine or feminine so it can be put into proper context in languages that need a 'sex' for every bloody word.

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I though I saw every kind of monster/weapon thread one can Imagine. I was so naive.
Are you going to debate on shotgun's gender next?

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Ebon said:

chainsaw=drujbã; female
shotgun=puscã; female
chaingun=mitralierã Gatling; female
plasma rifle=puscã de plasmã; female

Interesting... The most devastating (non-gender specific) weapons are feminine, why am I not surprised :o

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Darkfyre said:

Interesting... The most devastating (non-gender specific) weapons are feminine, why am I not surprised :o


Simple, because females can do a lot more damage in a short amount of time. Hence, thats why they're the toughest weapons around. But the question still stands.


Is the Unmaker Female?

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okay here is czech dictionary: (2possibilities somewhere)
original name -> how do we call it in czech -> translation of our title back to english:
Monsters:
Zombieman - Voják, Zombík - Soldier, Zombieman (male)
Shotgun Guy - Seržant - Sargeant (male)
Heavy Weapon Dude - Kulometèík - Chaingunner (male)
SS Soldier - SSák - SS man (male)
Imp - Imp - Imp (male)
Demon - Prase - Pig (neutrum)
Spectre - Duch - Spirit (male)
Ravenant - Kostra - Skelet (female)
Cacodemon - Cacodémon - Cacodemon (male)
Pain Elemental - Matka, Elementál - Mother, Elemental (female, male)
Hell Knight - Králíèek, Knight - Little Rabbit, Knight (male)
Baron of Hell - Králíèek, Baron - Little Rabbit, Baron (male)
Arachnotron - Pavouk - Spider (male)
Mancubus - Mancubus - Mancubus (male)
Archvile - Archie, Zaklínaè, Oživovaè - Archie, Sorcerer, Reviever (male)
Spider Mastermind - Velký pavouk - Big spider
Cyberdemon - Cyberdémon - Cyberdemon (male)
Boss Brain - Mozek, Romero - Brain, Romero (male)
Weapons:
Fist - Pìst (female)
Berserk - Berserker (male)
Chainsaw - Motorová Pila (female)
Shotgun - Puška, Jednohlavòovka (female)
Super Shotgun - Dvouhlavòovka, Brokovnice (female)
Chaingun - Kulomet (male)
Rocket Launcher - Raketomet (male)
Plasma Rifle - Plasma, Plasmovka (female)
BFG 9000 - BFG, BéeFGéèko (neutrum)

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when you think of it, a "demon" is an entity that lurks within the shadows of ones' mind, normally a secret or dark past, and therefore is devoid of gender, 'tis just a thought. a memory.

in the case of the game, i refer to the monsters by their given name or "it".

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Here is the english-finnish dictonary

English names Finish names

Former human = zombi ihminen
Shotgun guy = haulikko zombie
SS guard = ZZ vartia
Imp = Imppi
Heavy weapon dude = raskasase mies (Minigun mies)
Lost soul = kadonnut sielu
Demon = Demoni
Spectre = Näkymätön demoni
Revenant = luuranko
Cacodemon = cacodemoni
Pain elemental = kivun elementaali (I not sure)
Mancubus = mancubus
Arch vile = arch-vile
Baron of hell = helvetin paroni
Hell knight = Helvetin ritari
Spiderdemon (Arachtronon) = hämähäkkidemoni
Spider mastermind = jättihämähäkkidemoni
Cyberdemon = cyberdemoni

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Here are French name of Doom monsters:

Former human = Ancien humain
Shotgun guy = Type de fusil de chasse
SS guard = Garde de solides solubles
Imp = Lutin
Heavy weapon dude = Type lourd d'arme
Lost soul = Âme perdue
Demon = Démon
Spectre = Spectre
Revenant = ???
Cacodemon = ???
Pain elemental = Douleur élémentaire
Mancubus = ???
Arch vile = Voûte vile
Baron of hell = Baron d'enfer
Hell knight = Chevalier d'enfer
Spiderdemon = Démon d'araignée
Spider mastermind = Esprit supérieure d'araignée
Cyberdemon = Démon de Cyber

Is it reasonable? Because I use translation tool to translate

I think the majority of monsters are male, because their voice is deep, male voice. hell knight and hell Baron are muscular.

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I even have a french translation for the Doom 1 manual. I think lutin means something like 'goblin.' [edit], 'gnome', 'elf', ...

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printz said:

I even have a french translation for the Doom 1 manual. I think lutin means something like 'goblin.'


Really?

What about the French name of Revanent, Mancubus? THe translator can't translate

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Kennychan said:
What about the French name of Revanent, Mancubus? THe translator can't translate

The word Revenant is French, and Mancubus would probably not change (since it's latin based). I guess Cacodemon would be Cacodemón.

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Just throw some accents on it and pronounce it like you have a hairball in your throat.

Voila! Translated to French :p

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Darkfyre said:

Just throw some accents on it and pronounce it like you have a hairball in your throught.

Voila! Translated to French :p


Nope..

Its because they're already translated. The words Revenant and Mancubus have latin origins, along with a bit of french pronounciations, therefore, it's already translated.

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Darkfyre said:

Smart Demon? That couldn't be further from the truth :p

Smärt (Smärta = pain) pronounced about: schmaertahh

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sidarmas said:

Its because they're already translated. The words Revenant and Mancubus have latin origins, along with a bit of french pronounciations, therefore, it's already translated.

I know, I'm just insulting the French is all :p

Kinkyfriend said:

Smärt (Smärta = pain) pronounced about: schmaertahh

Again, I know, I'm just insulting the Demon is all :p

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I speak Tamil(an Indian language) and in my language and a few other South Indian languages "Amma" means mom, and interestingly "Amma" is what the Mancubus says when attacking.

When I was a kid, I had the trial version of Doom. I used to play E1 everytime using iddqd and idspispopd, especially E1M4 and I liked watching monsters fight each other. At that time, I used to think of the Pinkies and Imps as the dads and moms of the zombies because they always used to beat the crap outta them with such an ease and the death cries of zombies sounded like babies. It seemed to me like they were just keeping their children under control.

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Shadow Dweller said:

look for a website called "Doom2.net". it has more info on the monsters than you could possibly imagine.

Yeah, because a memorial website for Mary Alice Crapo has alot to do about monsters.

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