DOOMENSTEIN Posted August 28, 2006 Why haven't they compared the DNA to the parents/brothers? That would end the mystery once and for all wouldn't it? Or have they already? 0 Share this post Link to post
Murdoch Posted August 29, 2006 Yes they have already compared the DNA to the family. It didn't come from any of them. 0 Share this post Link to post
DOOMENSTEIN Posted August 29, 2006 JoelMurdoch said:Yes they have already compared the DNA to the family. It didn't come from any of them. So why hasn't that eliminated any doubt towards the parents? 0 Share this post Link to post
Murdoch Posted August 29, 2006 DOOMENSTEIN said:So why hasn't that eliminated any doubt towards the parents? That's precisely what I've been trying to figure out. The media's portrayal of the Ramseys, and the spin they put on various aspects of their life, is largely to blame. However, every one I have challenged has yet to come up with a sound theory about how any of the family could be to blame that doesn't conflict with the physical or behavioural evidence about the case. Parents do kill their kids - just not in this way. And they certainly don't finish the job up by being so cold blooded and together as to dump the body in the basement, shove something in the kid's vagina to cause an abrasion and then go and write the ransom note knowing full well the ruse would be discovered quickly. Also to the people who think the crime was staged - why would John, if he were involved as either killer or conspirator, UNSTAGE the scene? The first thing he did (also keeping in mind my earlier point about how killers of family members usually set up someone else to find the body) was to rip off the duct tape on her mouth, undo the bindings on her hands, and try and resuscitate her? Whoever killed JonBenet was probably reasonably well known to the family, he may have even been in the house at some point. He knew enough to get the $118,000 for the ransom, which was the almost exact amount from John's recent pay packet. He was not completely stupid but nor was he criminally sophisticated, which accounts for the mixed presentation of aspects of the crime. I believe it started out as a kidnapping, but something happened in the basement that cause things to go south. Maybe JonBenet struggled with him, or he otherwise realised his fantasy of having some kind of relationship with this child wasn't going to work. Personally, the rage evident in the way she was killed, the anger directed at John in the note, and the apparent profit motivation for the whole thing makes me think that JonBenet said or did something that made him snap. This does leave a question mark over the vaginal abraisions though. Anyone interested in the case should read "The Cases That Haunt Us" by former FBI profiler John Douglas. His no bullshit approach and his unquestionable expertise helps make the otherwise confusing evidence make sense. 0 Share this post Link to post
DOOMENSTEIN Posted August 29, 2006 One theory in my mind was that Burke did it and the parents have been trying to cover it up to save his ass. Maybe the kid was nuts and one night he killed her, they discovered her, and went nuts trying to keep him out of jail. Not a really good theory, just a thought I have entertained from time to time. But if you look at these clues: * Two dissimilar footprints in the wine cellar that did not match any of the shoes in the residence * A third footprint of an unknown person on the outer part of the window of the room by the wine cellar (John Ramsey said the window was malfunctioning) * A possible footprint on a suitcase, placed directly below the same window * A rope that was foreign to the residence found on the bed of the guestroom near JonBenét's room * Physical marks on JonBenét's body that suggested the use of a stun gun * Blood sample on JonBenét's underwear that did not match any known suspect Anyone who thought the parents did it after all that are purely ignorant. It also rules out my Burke theory...so WTF? 0 Share this post Link to post
Bank Posted August 29, 2006 You're making this out to be the crime of the century. Had the media not stepped in this crime would have been solved within the year. But, we can thank the same folks for OJ. I do love our justice system. 0 Share this post Link to post
Lizardcommando Posted August 29, 2006 Ehh, then again, Colorado isn't exactly well known for their excellent police work. 0 Share this post Link to post
DOOMENSTEIN Posted August 29, 2006 Lizardcommando said:Ehh, then again, Colorado isn't exactly well known for their excellent police work. Or any part of the US for that matter... 0 Share this post Link to post
Murdoch Posted August 29, 2006 Well hardly the Crime of the Century (a bullshit media term if ever I heard one), for those of us interested in crime and behavioral analysis it is quite a unique and intriguing case. Even though part of me is loathe to refer to someone's needless death in so... "abstract" a manner, I can't deny it interests me intellectually. 0 Share this post Link to post
fodders Posted October 6, 2006 A judge has dismissed child pornography charges against a former suspect in the killing of US child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey. Prosecutors in Santa Rosa, California, said they did not have enough evidence to proceed against John Mark Karr. Mr Karr was recently investigated over the 1996 death of JonBenet Ramsey after he claimed to have killed her, but DNA tests cleared him of the crime. Mr Karr, 41, was extradited to the US from Thailand in August. Judge Rene Chouteau has now ordered Mr Karr's immediate release. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5411738.stm The whole thing was just a distraction 0 Share this post Link to post