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LogicDeLuxe

Connecting DOS and Windows Doom

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The last time, I set up a deathmatch game, I had only DOS PC's and coaxial LAN cable with termination resistors.
Now I use a router (Fritzbox fon) and I want to connect my old DOS PC with my Windows 2000 PC.
Doom95 doesn't seem to communicate with my DOS PC.
IPX driver is loaded (-nodes 1 works). The Fritzbox indicades a connection. The firewall (Zonealarm) doesn't even detect network access. Might be Doom95, as I wasn't able to run a network game back then using Windows 95 either.

Which Doom ports can I use for this? Preferably close to Vanilla (as my old DOS PC couldn't handle much eye candy or over detailed maps anyways). Any suggestions?

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First of all, don't use DOOM95, it has a lot of weird bugs and there are better ports for Windows that mimic Vanilla (Chocolate DOOM for example).On your DOS PC I would recommend Boom, because it's completely compatible with any Vanilla WADs and there are no bugs which can ruin the multiplayer game.

Unfortunately, you can't connect different source ports with eachother. So you'll have to run Boom under DOSBox or something similar, which doesn't give good results. (I'm not even sure if DOSBox programs have acces to network stuff.)

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boomlala said:

there are better ports for Windows that mimic Vanilla (Chocolate DOOM for example).On your DOS PC I would recommend Boom
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Unfortunately, you can't connect different source ports with eachother.

And that's why you suggesting Chocolate Doom AND Boom. Sorry, not really helpful.

Besides, Doom95 is supposed to connect to Vanilla as there is a special option for exactly that. I never saw it working though.

What I'm looking for is either a Windows Doom port which can connect to Vanilla Doom, or a source port which has executables for both systems.
Are there any known working combinations?

I forgot to mention it above. I also installed my old Windows 95 in Virtual PC and have Vanilla Doom in it. Doesn't connect. I'm not sure if the IPX protocol under Windows 95 is compatible to a DOS driver, though.

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Note that whatever port you use on the Windows machine must be able to use IPX as this is what vanilla doom uses for networking. (And I assume other DOS ports) As far as I know, Doom95 is the only Windows port that supports IPX. (though I can't remember, as I haven't used it in a while. Anyone care to refresh my memory?)

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Are Boom and PrBoom compatible? If so, you should try that. It's a long shot, but it could work.

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As far as I know, Doom95 is the only Windows port that supports IPX.

Older versions of Doomsday used to support IPX but considering there is no DOS version and it uses a completely different network model it won't be much use to LogicDeluxe.

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Ehhh and please do not forget: IPX is a non-routable protocol. I am not sure, how your router (is it a switch or is it a hub?) handles this. Maybe you should try a direct connection with a crosslink cable!

BTW: DOSbox can run vanilla DOOM perfectly under Windows. (but I never tried the IPX...)

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AFAIK, DOSBox won't actually use IPX on the real network, even if the programs inside think they are. It uses TCP/IP for IPX, modem, and nullmodem.

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Doom95 never worked across routers. As suggested above, use a Doom port for best results.

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Mordeth said:

Doom95 never worked across routers. As suggested above, use a Doom port for best results.

Beside IPX Doom95 does support Directplay/Winsock over TCP/IP, which should be routable.

But he is stuck with vanilla dos-doom (and therefore IPX) on one machine, so he has to use Doom95 with IPX and a direct (crosslink-cable) connection between both computers.

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