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Andy Olivera

Looking for original DFEAR series

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As the title says, I'm trying to get ahold of the original DFEAR1 - DFEAR5 series of WADs(they seem to have vanished entirely from the net). They were later replaced by DMONFEAR, but there are several old lmps that only play back with the old versions.

If anyone has these, please either eMail them to me or post them here. Thanks in advance...

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I've got them. Should I use the e-mail address in your profile or something else? (PM me if you're worried about spambots getting hold of it.)

(Though Donner's 18, 20, 21, 23 and 24 demos don't seem to play back with these versions either. As I understand it, the problem is due to bad REJECTs, rather than changes in the maps.)

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Well, I knew about the REJECT problems in the new version(I assumed those had problems because Adam changed them), so I guess it won't make a difference. Nevermind(thanks, though).

On another note, the other demos on 21 & 23(by Opulent & Valls) aren't playing back for me, either, even after I've RMB'd the maps. I've tried both plain and with -perfect(using v3.0). Were you ever able to get these working?

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Yes, those work OK for me, using the RMBed versions of the maps provided at DSDA. The location of these is not entirely obvious, it must be admitted:
http://competn.doom2.net/pub/sda/0-a/18.zip
http://competn.doom2.net/pub/sda/0-a/20.zip
http://competn.doom2.net/pub/sda/0-a/21.zip
http://competn.doom2.net/pub/sda/0-a/23.zip
http://competn.doom2.net/pub/sda/0-a/24.zip
http://competn.doom2.net/pub/sda/0-a/25.zip

One thing I noticed when checking this stuff a while ago was that Donner's map25 demo plays back OK (using just dmonfear.wad) when using both prboom-plus's reject overflow emulation and REJECT padding with zeroes. So am I not quite sure what to make of the fact that five of his other demos don't work. Maybe he just recorded them and released the pack without checking that they played back. Or maybe on his OS/environment they did happen to work, because it was padding the REJECT in a consistent enough way that the demos worked for him (i.e. by pure fluke).

BTW, I set up the autoloading patterns so as to make as many dmonfear demos play back as possible. If you find ways to make additional ones play back, please let me know and I'll make the appropriate changes.

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Awesome! Thanks, I browsed the archive several times but couldn't find those.

I collected the overflow values for each map if you wanted to add them to the list(MAP25 is already listed):

MAP18 (578<904)
MAP20 (5887<10732)
MAP21 (466<1152)
MAP23 (2450<2629)
MAP24 (436<1013)

Regarding MAP25 working and the others not, given that they're all too large to be emulated(I believe; don't know what the max length is) I'd have to call it a fluke. The other overflows(except 23) are so large I'd imagine they'd sync only once in a blue moon. If Yonatan was able to play them back at all, I'd guess it was immediately after recording.

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Yes, these are all much too large for emulation (though what one would be attempting to emulate in these cases is unclear given that Doom2.exe's behaviour itself is erratic).

The criteria for emulation are:

  • the size of the overflow no more than 16 bytes
  • the size of the REJECT lump is divisible by 4

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