guitarman Posted March 17, 2009 This is the coolest thing I have heard of in a while. /signs up http://www.freestateproject.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project 0 Share this post Link to post
Alice Jameson Posted March 17, 2009 This is probably one of the coolest stupidest things I have ever seen... I would never sign up though... 0 Share this post Link to post
Sharessa Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah, that's been around for years. It would be kind of cool if it worked. Might give more credence towards third parties then. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bucket Posted March 17, 2009 But there's nothing to do in New Hampshire. 0 Share this post Link to post
Hellbent Posted March 17, 2009 Bucket said:But there's nothing to do in New Hampshire. You can buy alcohol on Sunday. 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted March 17, 2009 Danarchy said:Yeah, that's been around for years. It would be kind of cool if it worked. Might give more credence towards third parties then. Wasn't there a Christian party movement that wanted all Christians to pile up in one state and take it over, and declare it a sovereign nation? Heh. This reminds me of the Free-Town movement. Turns out they're related. Wikipedia: Free Town Project Boy, let's read this one, shall we? from the article: One member of the group, Larry Pendarvis, advocated ending "enforcement of Laws prohibiting victimless crime acts among Consenting Adults, such as Dueling, Gambling, Incest, Cannibalism and Drug Handling." I have no comment on that, other than... exp(x) said:Heh, libertarians. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted March 18, 2009 Peel the skin of a libertarian and you'll usually reveal an anarchist. 0 Share this post Link to post
chungy Posted March 18, 2009 You say that as if it's a bad thing. :P Plus some libertarians freely admit to being anarchists. 0 Share this post Link to post
myk Posted March 18, 2009 GreyGhost said: Peel the skin of a libertarian and you'll usually reveal an anarchist. When I tried it, I unveiled a naive bourgeois. 0 Share this post Link to post
Kirby Posted March 18, 2009 myk said:When I tried it, I unveiled a naive bourgeois. Heh I'd like to see what actually happens if this movement reaches its goal of 20,000 0 Share this post Link to post
Jodwin Posted March 18, 2009 Kirby said:I'd like to see what actually happens if this movement reaches its goal of 20,000 My guess is there'll be a lot of drinking and illicit sex for a week and then everyone forgets it ever happened. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted March 18, 2009 I'm guessing the illicit sex will be followed by dueling, cannibalism and another membership drive. 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted March 18, 2009 GreyGhost said:I'm guessing the illicit sex will be followed by dueling, cannibalism and another membership drive. Drinking the Kool-Aid sounds like a viable alternative. 0 Share this post Link to post
Prince of Darkness Posted March 18, 2009 Csonicgo said:Drinking the Kool-Aid sounds like a viable alternative. I KNEW it! 0 Share this post Link to post
Alice Jameson Posted March 19, 2009 GreyGhost said:Peel the skin of a libertarian and you'll usually reveal an anarchist. You say that like it's horrible to be an anarchist. Actually anarchy would be a particularly good system except it's because of people that it doesn't work. People seem to be naturally stupid. You can have peace and anarchy at the same time. It IS possible. But everyone would have to do their part. As long as their are stupid people in this world anarchy won't work, unfortunately. I'm an anarchist, by the way... And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm a punk rock grrl. 0 Share this post Link to post
SYS Posted March 19, 2009 Punk was created after a Fashion Designer with a vision met some shit disturbing hooligans. Anarchy! dur! dur! dur! Let's save the world based on false science by blowing up SUVs and save animals that have to be euthanized for which their bleeding heart liberators don't even have the money to care for them. Give me a break. 0 Share this post Link to post
Alice Jameson Posted March 19, 2009 POTGIESSER said:Punk was created after a Fashion Designer with a vision met some shit disturbing hooligans. Anarchy! dur! dur! dur! Let's save the world based on false science by blowing up SUVs and save animals that have to be euthanized for which their bleeding heart liberators don't even have the money to care for them. Give me a break. As I said it's because of STUPID PEOPLE that it doesn't work... 0 Share this post Link to post
SYS Posted March 19, 2009 Then give an example of intelligent Anarchy. 0 Share this post Link to post
CODOR Posted March 19, 2009 Anarchy would work great if we could make people follow its rules... 0 Share this post Link to post
Creaphis Posted March 19, 2009 I don't really get anarchy. Who's going to build roads, fund libraries, protect the populace, defend the nation, etc. etc. etc.? 0 Share this post Link to post
40oz Posted March 19, 2009 The initiative is that everyone will have to do those things for themselves. The biggest problem with anarchy is that it doesn't really have an ability to stay anarchy. It will eventually develop into something. 0 Share this post Link to post
Prince of Darkness Posted March 19, 2009 POTGIESSER said:Then give an example of intelligent Anarchy. ...Zergling rushes? 0 Share this post Link to post
guitarman Posted March 20, 2009 JohnnyRancid said:The initiative is that everyone will have to do those things for themselves. The biggest problem with anarchy is that it doesn't really have an ability to stay anarchy. It will eventually develop into something. Anarcho-capitalism, hopefully. I definitely consider myself to be anti-statist, but I actively avoid calling myself an anarchist as this puts me in company with more braindead left-leaning socialist assholes than you can shake a stick at. The kind of "anarchy" where private property rights don't exist is indeed really fucking retarded. Anarcho-capitalism, on the other hand, I strongly believe would not only work, but would work far better in every conceivable aspect than any other system of governance and economics. Private industry and the free market don't need a government to survive/thrive; exactly the converse is true. 0 Share this post Link to post
Sharessa Posted March 20, 2009 POTGIESSER said:Punk wasThe Sex Pistols were created after a Fashion Designer with a vision met some shit disturbing hooligans. They're still my favorite punk band, though. Anarchy is an interesting theory, but it can never work. I wouldn't say it's due to stupidity, but rather out of the human (and animal) instinct to find comfort in law and order. Here's a good video on the subject of governments (specifically the nature of American government) that Lüt linked to elsewhere... 0 Share this post Link to post
Creaphis Posted March 20, 2009 Danarchy said:video Interesting video, and informative, as long as you stay mindful of its bias. Personally, I'm not convinced that social programs will inevitably doom us to being ruled by INGSOC. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gokuma Posted March 20, 2009 Republic of Lakotah + Free State Project + Southern Nation Congress, bitches. 0 Share this post Link to post
Texas Libra Posted March 20, 2009 Hellbent said:You can buy alcohol on Sunday. You can buy alcohol on Sunday here in Texas too...just not before 12pm ;) 0 Share this post Link to post
myk Posted March 20, 2009 Creaphis said: Interesting video, and informative, as long as you stay mindful of its bias. If you take out the bias, I fail to see much left, other than nostalgia for the time of the founding fathers and an uncomfortable side impression that a republic is also only a factor in a process which always leads to something worse (that is, which does not suit its ideals). What else would you say is informative about it? After all, bias usually dresses up facts and pseudo-facts in a fashion to suit its objectives... 0 Share this post Link to post