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Map05 Song Tribute

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Here are my versions of the Map05 song and the Wolfenstein 3D Title song. After doing the whole Doom 2 soundtrack, I'm doing Wolfenstein 3D and then Knee Deep In The Dead.

Map05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFQVQlQ1RbE

Wolfenstein 3D Title Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjbS-zPqWys




Previous work:

Map03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwbPPUVc6vM

Map02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsM7fdS_FPE

Map01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84hlaGEgfnM

Doom 2 Interlevel Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuPoOtW2T-M

Doom 2 Title Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJkh1w1bFU

E1M7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKZng9HKRUU

E1M5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_URS3YFTw

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I really enjoyed your MAP05 song. How did you make it? I left you a comment on youtube under the name Rnitrofish :D

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I like your version of the Horst Wessel Lied/ Wolfenstein theme. I'm actually more interested to see what you do with the other Wolf tracks rather than the Doom stuff simply because I haven't heard many Wolf remixes/ reworkings and this is a good start.

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Your songs get better and better dude, this is quite decent.

I particularly like the MAP05 orchestral main verse (2:00), the industrial-like sounds (1:52 and 3:02) suit the mood very well also.

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All sounds really good. Remaking the old midis into high quality audio is a pretty simple process if you have the right programs. First just extract the .midi for the song you want, then you can load the midi into a sequencer, like Mixcraft for example, then if you have really good synth software, you just plug in the different midi instruments with the high quality synth instruments, and tada.

Great job with your remakes! they sound really good

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Thanks guys.

r_rr:
I use instrument packs. When I load the MIDI file, I can replace each track real pre-recorded instruments. I mix and master my songs in Garageband, which is a software that comes with Mac computers. I'm recording my own guitar and bass guitar tracks, and the piano\clavichord in Map02 was performed by me.

Enjay:
Wolfenstein will be a lot faster to cover since the mixes will be more traditional, marching band-like, and I don't think there will be any original performances by yours truly.

Super Jamie:
That sound you're hearing is the kick drum distorted with an echo effect on it. Hip-hop guys will usually do that.

Dee:
Anyone can - and should - load MIDI files into a software and do their own versions. I think what makes my versions different is that I have an unusual mixing style and I'm not changing the genre of the music as I've seen everyone else do. I'll put it this way - the songs usually start with 5 or 6 tracks, and they end up being 30+ tracks.

If you like my Doom songs, check out my solo-artist project http://www.myspace.com/steverot . It's partially influenced by the very same music.

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Gunner said:

Super Jamie:
That sound you're hearing is the kick drum distorted with an echo effect on it. Hip-hop guys will usually do that.

It works well! I love when musicians know tricks across genres which help make their individual compositions better :)

I'll put it this way - the songs usually start with 5 or 6 tracks, and they end up being 30+ tracks.

Personally I think this is the way to do it. Anyone can download soundfonts and listen to MIDIs sounding all fancy, it takes real talent to audibly extend and improve on a song whilst still retaining the original sound.

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The MAP 05 tribute is awesome. Eerie and Creepy and very atmospheric. And like Super Jamie said, I loved the orchestral section too. Sounds like pizzicato cellos or something like that.

Neat work. Well done. :)

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Awesome stuff. Listening to the stuff on your myspace now. I'm interested in getting a midi version of your MAP02 remix for the MAP02 of my episode (Area42, you can check the thread in wads/mods). Obviously I will credit you :)

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Kyka said:

Sounds like pizzicato cellos or something like that.


Close, it's actually staccato violins.

ArmouredBlood said:

I'm interested in getting a midi version of your MAP02 remix for the MAP02 of my episode


A MIDI version of my Map02 remix would sound exactly the same as the original Bobby Prince version except with some extra parts. I'd say you're better off with his version.

Your level kicked my ass. I couldn't find the red key though.

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Gunner said:

A MIDI version of my Map02 remix would sound exactly the same as the original Bobby Prince version except with some extra parts. I'd say you're better off with his version.

Your level kicked my ass. I couldn't find the red key though.


Aw yea, the track limitations :( I keep running into reasons I might make it zdooom instead of boom compatible, but I started boom compat, it will stay boom compat.

And yea, people have been telling me my levels are too hard for casual play -.- I'm surprised you couldn't find the red key though, the level guides you to it. Sorry for going a little off-topic.

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This will certainly rock if a full game replacement is the objective you are going for, Gunner.

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Mr. Chris said:

This will certainly rock if a full game replacement is the objective you are going for, Gunner.


Somebody asked me to post a link to download all the songs, and I'll do that when the whole thing is done.

I was thinking about that too. I was thinking about grouping it together with a Doom 2 remake wad, but the file would be 600 mb, and the MP3s would be embedded in the wad so you couldn't listen to them on your iPod or whatever.

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Sweet! Map05 is already one of the best tracks in the game; I always wondered why it was only used once. Your version is awesome.

I was thinking last night that it would be cool to have people post more versions of these, even if they were just recorded with different soundfonts.

Speaking of that, anybody have an opinion on the best soundfont to use for playing DOOM tracks? I haven't found a perfect one yet. I'm using this one atm. It seems the best I've found in terms of sounding good over a range of music. It's also stupidly huge. Lots of the DOOM guys always recommended Silverspring, but it seems to glitch a lot on some songs, despite having perfectly awesome guitars for DOOM.

Meh. Enough of my ranting. Awesome remixes. Honestly though, the version of Horst Wessel Lied that Bobby Prince did for Wolf3D sucks and it sounds kind of weird on anything but the Adlib sounds he used.

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Aliotroph? said:

Speaking of that, anybody have an opinion on the best soundfont to use for playing DOOM tracks?

The only ones I've found which were even worth the time are eawpats and shompats (it's in Japanese, look for 10M). Fluid R3 is also a massive soundfont which covers GM and GS. There are heaps of others linked on the Old Soundcard Emulation page.

Personally I use OGGs of LogicDeLuxe's recordings he made with his actual Roland Sound Canvas hardware synth. He's distributing these via bittorrent, there's a thread about them somewhere on here.

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Ooo, I didn't notice that page contained all those soundfonts to emulate obscure olde things. A lot of game music sounds surprisingly good on the Nokia one. Ironically, the MIDI ringtones form Nokia don't. I suspect they have a weird synth on their phones. Some of their stuff sounded cool on my old phone.

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I would expect old assembly-ROM phones like the 35xx/61xx series which that font's based off to have a hardware chip doing the MIDI, though I wonder if newer phones powerful enough to run operating systems (like Symbian) would perform software synth?

I don't believe Android's JavaVM incorporates a MIDI synth by default, and I guess Maemo would use Timidity as it's really just Debian under the hood. No prizes for guessing what Windows Mobile phones probably use.

On the upside, phones these days are powerful enough to use OGG/MP3/etc as tones, so we are freed from ear-splitting 4-channel renditions of pop songs which were questionable to begin with :P

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Yeah, my Nokia phone sounds like it has something like an OPL3 in it. They did a decent job with it for what it is. It was too bad that thing could only connect via proprietary cables. I could have dumped some game music on it.

Whatever my Blackberry uses sounds horrible. It sounds like they cobbled together a soundfont from some random bits and forgot to balance the volume. I tried dumping some ROTT songs on it. All the instruments are very quiet except for the square waves. Useless! Yeah, MP3 ringtones have solved the problem -- except for my poor bastard friends with iPhones. Sucks to be them, having to pay for ringtones and all!

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