WinDEU doubt

[Karnizero]

i was wondering how the heck can I build a two sided-linedefs sector, for example, for a raised platform or a slime pit or whatever, BUT in an easy way.

Right now, the only way I know is to create a one sided-linedefs sector, either with the front linedefs looking to inside the small sector, or looking to the bigger sector.
Then edit the linedefs to create the second sidedef.

For a 4 ldefs sector, this is not much work, but for a 25 or more ldefs this takes infinite time... and I don't want to talk about splitting that sector when other sector's linedef 'touches' any linedef from the first sector...

Another thing I tried was to insert a prefab square in the middle of the container sector, but the sector inserted is, by default, one sided.


As fas as I know, WinTex automatically creates 2 sided-linedef sectors when doing this...

[printz]

Karnizero said:

As fas as I know, WinTex automatically creates 2 sided-linedef sectors when doing this...

You mean WinDEU, right? Anyway, I rarely ever use the vertex draw/linedef insert feature in WinDEU, unless I'm creating a whole new area. Instead, I just expand the room and then split the sector. If it's for a nested sector, then I still split the main room, then split the splitter line to give it a cavity, then split to close in that cavity. Afterwards I delete (via Linedefs menu, then via DELETE key) the linedefs separating the main room, to have a seamless container sector.

It's all about splitting.

[andrewj]

25 linedefs should be no slower than 4, you can change their sector references all at the same time. The 'e' key is handy for highlighting a group of connected lines.

EDIT: removed some bogus advice.

[RestlessRodent]

Karnizero said:

i was wondering how the heck can I build a two sided-linedefs sector, for example, for a raised platform or a slime pit or whatever, BUT in an easy way.

Right now, the only way I know is to create a one sided-linedefs sector, either with the front linedefs looking to inside the small sector, or looking to the bigger sector.
Then edit the linedefs to create the second sidedef.

For a 4 ldefs sector, this is not much work, but for a 25 or more ldefs this takes infinite time... and I don't want to talk about splitting that sector when other sector's linedef 'touches' any linedef from the first sector...

Another thing I tried was to insert a prefab square in the middle of the container sector, but the sector inserted is, by default, one sided.


As fas as I know, WinTex automatically creates 2 sided-linedef sectors when doing this...

Have you tried selecting the line and pressing insert?

[Karnizero]

printz said:

You mean WinDEU, right? Anyway, I rarely ever use the vertex draw/linedef insert feature in WinDEU, unless I'm creating a whole new area. Instead, I just expand the room and then split the sector. If it's for a nested sector, then I still split the main room, then split the splitter line to give it a cavity, then split to close in that cavity. Afterwards I delete (via Linedefs menu, then via DELETE key) the linedefs separating the main room, to have a seamless container sector.

It's all about splitting.

No, I wanted to say Wauthor not Wintex.

Yes, I thought about that, but that's a lot of unnecessary work. For a simple construction like a square, that's the best way to go but for something more complex it can become a hell of splitting and joining.

andrewj said:

25 linedefs should be no slower than 4, you can change their sector references all at the same time. The 'e' key is handy for highlighting a group of connected lines.

EDIT: removed some bogus advice.

The problem is that not every linedef is with it's front sidedef looking at the same sector.

I will try your 'e' trick. Thanks.

GhostlyDeath said:

Have you tried selecting the line and pressing insert?

That's what I did. The main problem is when doing that, the new sector is only one-sided, so I need to edit manually all sidedefs that I want to belong to the outer sector.

Thanks you all for your tips.