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Legacy of Suffering blood effects and glowing eyes?

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I just finished playing through Legacy of Suffering mod. I really like it.

Anyways, one thing in particular that caught my eye was the way the blood splatter in Los. How it splashes against the wall and seems to be just more bloody than the original doom levels.

Is there any way to add the way the blood squirts and splashes in Los to the original doom or other mods?

I was also wondering if there was a way to add the glowing eyes that the zombies and demons have in LOS?

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Well, just look at how LoS did it. A good place to start your investigation would probably be the DECALDEF lump. Use ZDoom wiki for documentation and reference.

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ok, so I opened up los.pk3 and started poking around. I believe I found the graphics for the blood splatter, but the decaldef seems to be in another language. I think Portugese. I'm not sure how to take them out and put into a separate wad.

I have no clue about the glowing eyes still.

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Gez said:

Glowing eyes use brightmaps, defined in a GLDEFS lump. DECALDEF are not in Portuguese, though individual decal generator may be given any sort of names, the keywords are in English and the syntax is simple.

http://zdoom.org/wiki/DECALDEF
http://zdoom.org/wiki/GLDEFS


I mean all the headers and comments are not in English. I can't see anywhere where it specifies that it is the section that controls the blood splatter. You'd have to see it to see what I mean I guess.

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ok. I looked again. I found this:

//==============================
// Sangue ======================

Decal Sangue01 31
{
	pic BSPLAT1
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue02 32
{
	pic BSPLAT2
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue03 33
{
	pic BSPLAT3
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue04 34
{
	pic BSPLAT4
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue05 35
{
	pic BSPLAT5
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue06 36
{
	pic BSPLAT6
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue07 37
{
	pic BSPLAT7
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue08 38
{
	pic BSPLAT8
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue09 39
{
	pic BSPLAT9
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue10 40
{
	pic BSPLAT10
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Sangue11 41
{
	pic BSPLAT11
	shade "30 00 00"
}

Decal Hand 66
{
	pic GHOSHAND
	x-scale 0.015
	y-scale 0.015
}

// ============================
// GZDoom BLoods ==============

decal BloodSplat1
{
	pic BSPLAT1
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat2
{
	pic BSPLAT2
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat3
{
	pic BSPLAT3
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat4
{
	pic BSPLAT4
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat5
{
	pic BSPLAT5
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat6
{
	pic BSPLAT6
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat7
{
	pic BSPLAT7
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.35
	y-scale 0.35
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat8
{
	pic BSPLAT8
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat9
{
	pic BSPLAT9
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat10
{
	pic BSPLAT10
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat11
{
	pic BSPLAT11
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat12
{
	pic BSPLAT12
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat13
{
	pic BSPLAT13
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat14
{
	pic BSPLAT14
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat15
{
	pic BSPLAT15
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}
decal BloodSplat16
{
	pic BSPLAT16
	shade "30 00 00"
	x-scale 0.75
	y-scale 0.75
	randomflipx
	randomflipy
}

decalgroup BloodSplat
{
	BloodSplat1	1
	BloodSplat2	1
	BloodSplat3	1
	BloodSplat4	1
	BloodSplat5	1
	BloodSplat6	1
	BloodSplat7	1
	BloodSplat8 1
	BloodSplat9 1
	BloodSplat10 1
	BloodSplat11 1
	BloodSplat12 1
	BloodSplat13 1
	BloodSplat14 1
	BloodSplat15 1
	BloodSplat16 1	
	
}
I'm still not sure how to implement it though. I'm not sure if the "sangue" part is needed, but it does have the blood sprites in it, so I put it there.

Alos, the blood sprites are in a separate wad inside the .pk3 then the decaldef is. Do I have to keep both wads and just remove everything besides what I want?

(sorry, I'm not sure how to use the code window when posting code)

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Use {code}{/code} tags. Except with square brackets [] instead of curly braces {}.

As for the sangue decals, they are apparently there just to allow to put blood splatter in the map directly. But you'll need their graphics, since they're the same ones used by the replacement BloodSplat* decals. Those are those you want.

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so I should just need the "gzdoom bloods" section of the decaldef in it's own decaldef file plus the sprites.wad with the "blood/" folder with the bsplat1-16 sprites? BOthe in another wad or pk3? That should be all I need?

I read that to do the glowing eyes in gldef, I would have to make greyscale sprites of all the enemies. Is that right? If so, I may just leave it be since I am not very good at graphics editing and only have ms paint.

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Yeah, brightmaps are grayscale sprites. The brighter the grey, the brighter the corresponding area of the sprite is: fully black is not birghtened at all, fully white is always full bright. If you dig around LoS's resources, you will find the brightmaps.

Note that GZDoom comes with a brightmaps.pk3 file which you could autoload. It does not have glowing eyes, but its brightmaps could be edited to add them.

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Thanks for the help Gez. I got the blood decals working. Funny though, they seem a bit too excessive outside of LOS now that I tried them in regular doom. I think it's because of how dark LOS is. A good shotgun blast to a zombie can practically paint the entire wall and any switches on it too.

How would I tweak the brightmaps in the gzdoom brightmap file? just go in and make the enemy eyes white?

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tried looking in brightmaps for gzdoom. It doesn't seem to have all the enemies in there. And the ones it does, they are mostly black and I have no idea where the eyes should be.

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Compare with the actual sprite (from doom2.wad). And of course they are mostly black, they're meant to be, so that only the brightened parts are highlighted.

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