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Penn & Teller: War on Porn

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I found this clip and thought it was brilliant. Penn & Teller seem to nail it every time.

Warning: Totally NSFW

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After seeing the actual airing of the show, I can proudly say I pulled a P&T on a woman that was anti-porn for a large group presentation in High School.

She was about as dumb, too.

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The plots of porno videos are so exaggerated stupid that it's an automatic indication that what you are watching is entertainment and not an instructional video on how to get laid, and the best approach to do it.

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Sounds all good to me, but why is one of Penn's fingernails painted red?

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Bank said:

Sounds all good to me, but why is one of Penn's fingernails painted red?


He had to kill the last person who asked him that.

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40oz said:

The plots of porno videos are so exaggerated stupid that it's an automatic indication that what you are watching is entertainment and not an instructional video on how to get laid, and the best approach to do it.

I've noticed this is mainly some American obsession to have a plot in a porno flick. German, Russian and Polish porn rarely bothers with it.

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Belial said:

I've noticed this is mainly some American obsession to have a plot in a porno flick.

Sometimes (but not always) the Japanese try to force plots in too. Either way, although the plots in porn movies almost always are ridiculous and stupid, I wouldn't say they are completely meaningless. There are two reasons to watch porn: To jack off and to fantasize about having sex, and having plots can be beneficial to the latter, depending on your tastes.

I'd say it's more worrying if you just watch porn to jack off, since it goes to show how one-tracked your mind is. The good sex therapists (like the guy in the video) would agree. ;)

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Some people are just retarded. Don't like porn? Don't watch it. The same bullshit arguements are thrown at everything. BAWWWW they see a domination porn video, they're gonna rape!!! My kid plays CoD and calls down Tactical nukes! He's gonna become a weapon of mass destruction hoarder.

Just because you find something distasteful doesn't make it wrong, and sure as shit doesn't mean you have any right to piss on someones parade because they do enjoy it.

edit; also, the existence of male-on-male porn completely negates their argument.

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Jodwin said:

Sometimes (but not always) the Japanese try to force plots in too. Either way, although the plots in porn movies almost always are ridiculous and stupid, I wouldn't say they are completely meaningless. There are two reasons to watch porn: To jack off and to fantasize about having sex, and having plots can be beneficial to the latter, depending on your tastes.

Heh, what a discussion :P

The only porn that I've ever seen where the plot was 'acceptable' (actually I still remember a good bit of it) is this. From what I've heard old stuff released by Vivid tended to focus on the plot quite a bit.

It's also kinda hard to fantasize about completely ridiculous and stupid situations :P For that I prefer French softcore that often gets aired on TV late at night, even though most of it follows the generic theme of 'bored couple gets adventurous'.

As for Japanese porn, all I've ever seen was variations of 'seduced schoolgirl/secretary/bosses daughter/friend's wife' etc.

Edit: Seduced? More like raepd :P

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So if a woman signs a contract and is told exactly what is going to happen and then consents, that is somehow rape. Someone should buy these women a dictionary.

As for porn being degrading to women, the men in porn aren't exactly Einsteins. They all look like brutish apes that just got out of prison.

GhostlyDeath said:

Porn is bad. Don't watch it, don't do anything to it, it doesn't do anything to me, and I don't store it either.


Sure buddy, I believe you 100%.

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Sometimes (though rarely) I watch porn just because of the hilariously unorthodox things they do to women. Not that I agree with it but i fall off my chair laughing at how it was designed for someone to get off to.

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Sure buddy, I believe you 100%.


I'm always puzzled by these kind of answers (to people claiming they don't watch porn). Are you ashamed of watching porn ? Do you seek validation by believing everyone else watches porn just like you ?

Here's a hint : people have different tastes, in sex as in everything else.

Personally, I don't enjoy porn - admittedly, my only experience with it being a few softcore videos I watched as a teenager, but it was enough to see I'm not aroused by watching two total strangers go at it. If I'm interested in a woman in that way, seeing another guy have sex with her is definitely not something I want to see.

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I actually prefer softcore porn. I don't need to see an HD closeup of someone's asshole being penetrated.

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Phml said:

I'm always puzzled by these kind of answers (to people claiming they don't watch porn). Are you ashamed of watching porn ? Do you seek validation by believing everyone else watches porn just like you ?

What's so hard to get about it? The notion just seems absurd, is all. It'd be like if you said, "I can't stand ice cream." Do you think anyone would actually believe you? Do you think anyone who questioned you would be doing so out of a need for validation? No, they'd question you because it's such a bizarre and unusual position to take. If you don't care for porn, fine, that's your call to make, but don't act like people won't be weirded out.

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I suppose you can chalk it up to me being an eternal optimist constantly surprised to see closeminded people who will vehemently argue against the idea that everyone doesn't behave in the exact same way, then.

In the circles I'm in, the notion of watching porn would seem... Well, absurd might be a strong word, but being weirded out definitely fits. If you're looking for sex, why not do the real thing ?

Regardless, I can understand other people might feel differently so don't call out people on that... Even when they claim to have furry fetishes, which is, if you ask me, a hell of a lot higher on the insanity scale than some dude who doesn't watch porn, and yet seems commonly accepted around these parts.

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Porn is not a sex substitute. Are you saying you don't masturbate? And wait, it's not just you, but you run in entire circles that are weirded out by porn? You are officially starting to weird me out here.

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I think porn is pretty entertaining! I'll watch anything by anyone consenting for a laugh or otherwise. Do I respect the involved actors? More often than not, no. Do I think all women are porn actresses and should be treated like dirt? No. Do I think porn actors and actresses should be treated like dirt? Not unless they're being paid to do so. Do I have a strange desire to watch child pornography because I find adults screwing amusing? Nope.

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Porn doesn't do it for me, so I just use my imagination. The video made some really pretentious people look like fools.

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GhostlyDeath said:

Porn is bad. Don't watch it, don't do anything to it, it doesn't do anything to me, and I don't store it either.

It has been proven that erectile dysfunction is a warning sign of a heart condition. You should probably go see a doctor.

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Softcore porn, lesbian porn, and especially gay porn is basically all the argument thats needed for the feminist leaning anti-porn argument. They focus on one subset of porn that sometimes involves some undesirable practices. Mention any of these things and they all look like a deer in the headlights and have no clue what to say. And that's usually the end of that conversation.

The Evangelical-Christian-Conservative argument cannot be flouted by such reasonable means (because, as we know, if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people), so the best way to deal with those kinds of people is to set them on fire and go about your day.

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Philnemba said:

The only time I look at porn is when me & my girlfriend watch it together just to get ideas :P


KINKY!!!!

Porn is great, you turn it on, then touch yer weener until an unidentified white liquid squirts out, yep

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Philnemba said:

The only time I look at porn is when me & my girlfriend watch it together just to get ideas :P


*pictures you sitting in a couch watching porn with your arm around a giant stuffed winnie the poo doll that has an artificial vagina sewed on, perfectly content in the delusion that that's you're real girlfriend*


'if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people'

lolol

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gggmork said:

*pictures you sitting in a couch watching porn with your arm around a giant stuffed winnie the poo doll that has an artificial vagina sewed on, perfectly content in the delusion that that's you're real girlfriend*


lol I assure you that I wasn't kidding on my comment ;)

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Philnemba said:

The only time I look at porn is when me & my girlfriend watch it together just to get ideas :P


You're doing it wrong.

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gggmork said:

*pictures you sitting in a couch watching porn with your arm around a giant stuffed winnie the poo doll that has an artificial vagina sewed on, perfectly content in the delusion that that's you're real girlfriend*


Did you feel like you needed to complain about something?

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BS! is a great show. I used to watch it until we stopped ordering movie channels. Now it's on netflix instant queue, so GREAT!!!!

I watched this whole one... Yeah, needless to say, the argument almost makes itself.

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