grubber Posted August 13, 2010 id Software has just released the source code of Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory under the GPL. Download it from the id software FTP server:Return to Castle Wolfenstein (single player) Return to Castle Wolfenstein (multiplayer) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 0 Share this post Link to post
cybdmn Posted August 13, 2010 Unfortunately, RtCW MP is more or less dead now, and ET was never the same. I doubt, that this release bear any big stuff, aside from maybe Linux ports. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted August 13, 2010 Did they ever get around to release Doom3's source? 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted August 13, 2010 Wikipedia says that id Tech 4's GNU GPL is planned for 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_tech_4) 0 Share this post Link to post
exp(x) Posted August 13, 2010 It's nice to hear that engines are still being GPLd now that id is part of Bethesda. 0 Share this post Link to post
DaniJ Posted August 13, 2010 I'm less interested in the source release for those particular games. What is far more interesting however is their exiting from the engine middleware market. Which frankly Epic do not own yet, not while big players like Crytek are still in the game. This smacks of Bethesda saying "look guys, no more money for expensive research projects; just buy middleware". 0 Share this post Link to post
TheDarkArchon Posted August 13, 2010 DaniJ said:What is far more interesting however is their exiting from the engine middleware market. Which frankly Epic do not own yet, not while big players like Crytek are still in the game. Crytek are more or less Linux to Epics Microsoft at this point. 0 Share this post Link to post
DaniJ Posted August 13, 2010 The may be but Crytek certainly aren't lacking the technical expertise to do something about the situation. Just look at how awesome the latest incarnation of the engine is. 0 Share this post Link to post
TheDarkArchon Posted August 13, 2010 Capabilities are more or less moot if Crytek can't get people to use it, though being multiplatform this time will help matters. 0 Share this post Link to post
DaniJ Posted August 13, 2010 Well yes, obviously. However my point is you can't really say Epic "own" the middleware engine market. The Linux/Microsoft comparison is only partially applicable here. Those two (Linux/Microsoft) have been battling it out far longer than Epic's relatively recent dominance of the middleware engine market. And this dominance is largely due to lack of competition in the console domain. Perhaps I just like routing for the underdog. 0 Share this post Link to post
TheDarkArchon Posted August 13, 2010 DaniJ said:Those two (Linux/Microsoft) have been battling it out far longer than Epic's relatively recent dominance of the middleware engine market. And this dominance is largely due to lack of competition in the console domain. That's true. However, unless CryEngine 3 takes off soon, devs are just going to go UE because it's what they're used to. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted August 13, 2010 If Epic and Crytek are Microsoft and Linux, does that make Emergent Apple? 0 Share this post Link to post
DaniJ Posted August 13, 2010 Well imo if we want to draw this comparison I'd say Emergent are more like FreeBSD. This space doesn't really have a player fulfilling the "Apple role". 0 Share this post Link to post
wildweasel Posted August 13, 2010 The "Apple" in this case would be RenderWare, or probably Vicarious Visions Alchemy. (Does anybody still make games in those anymore?) 0 Share this post Link to post
Optimus Posted August 13, 2010 Great news! I'd love to see a RTCW port with engine improvements, similar to what Tenebrae did to Quake for example. RTCW must be the last single player FPS I truly loved playing (since Doom 2 :). 0 Share this post Link to post
chungy Posted August 14, 2010 I've actually wondered to myself what it would take to hack upon ioquake3 to support RTCW, now I'm glad we don't have to take the effort to find out :p 0 Share this post Link to post
LexiMax Posted August 14, 2010 printz said:Wikipedia says that id Tech 4's GNU GPL is planned for 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_tech_4) Good news, I don't want to have to keep Doom 3 installed just to play The Dark Mod. 0 Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted August 14, 2010 Good news, although I'm slightly disappointed because I was expecting something different when I saw the thread title... 0 Share this post Link to post
andrewj Posted August 15, 2010 fraggle said:although I'm slightly disappointed because I was expecting something different when I saw the thread title... Yeah me too. 0 Share this post Link to post
jute Posted August 16, 2010 For the record, I never got any response to those Wolf3D source licensing e-mails. 0 Share this post Link to post
Blzut3 Posted August 16, 2010 jute said:For the record, I never got any response to those Wolf3D source licensing e-mails. Supposedly Carmack has a twitter account where he appears to be responding to people. Has anyone tried contacting him that way? 0 Share this post Link to post
Dragonsbrethren Posted August 16, 2010 I could've sworn someone contacted Carmack about Wolf3D before and got his okay. Twitter is probably a good route to go if that isn't the case; I'd do it myself but I don't have an account there. 0 Share this post Link to post