Andrea Rovenski Posted September 6, 2010 Top three. 3.Plutonia 2.Ultimate Doom 1.Doom II 0 Share this post Link to post
darkreaver Posted September 6, 2010 Doom 2, by faaaaaaar. I think I hate 70% or something of the maps in Doom 2. 0 Share this post Link to post
Marnetmar Posted September 6, 2010 Doom 2 is the explanation why Sandy Peterson and American McGee shouldn't design levels. 0 Share this post Link to post
Snakes Posted September 6, 2010 Marnetmar said:Doom 2 is the explanation why Sandy Peterson and American McGee shouldn't design levels. I will never understand this point of view. Also, American McGee? Really? MAP14 is one of the most influential of all time. 0 Share this post Link to post
lupinx-Kassman Posted September 6, 2010 I don't hate any one of them specifically. I can find something I like in all of them. I will predict that there will be a volley of responses though taking the piss on TNT. 0 Share this post Link to post
Marnetmar Posted September 6, 2010 Snakes said:I will never understand this point of view. Also, American McGee? Really? MAP14 is one of the most influential of all time. I was being sarcastic there, while a few of DOOM 2's maps might be a bit boring, they aren't as bad as some people make them out to be. 0 Share this post Link to post
Snakes Posted September 6, 2010 Marnetmar said:I was being sarcastic there, while a few of DOOM 2's maps might be a bit boring, they aren't as bad as some people make them out to be. Ah, my bad. Hard to pick up on that sort of thing when so many people seem to actually believe that. To answer the question: I like all of the IWADs. But yeah, TNT's 3rd episode was pretty weak overall. Playing through the first 22 maps (including the 2 secrets) is really fun, though. 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted September 6, 2010 Nomad said:Hexen Thread title is confusing. Love or hate? 0 Share this post Link to post
Nuxius Posted September 6, 2010 Heretic and Hexen. Never really cared for either one of them. 0 Share this post Link to post
DuckReconMajor Posted September 6, 2010 printz said:(Thread) title (is) confusing. (Love) or (hate)? Parentheses in thread title are (un)neccessary(?) And I vote all Hexen haters get eated by Korax 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted September 6, 2010 (((Doom2/TNT) + Hexen * ((UDoom - Heretic)/Plutonia) ^ Chex) + Freedoom) . . . maybe? 0 Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted September 6, 2010 doom.wad, registered version (not Ultimate). 0 Share this post Link to post
Nomad Posted September 6, 2010 printz said:Thread title is confusing. Love or hate? Don't hate, but didn't really like. Switch hunts are shit, and when those switches are in completely different maps it's a whole new level of shit. Heretic is cute but not really that good either. Both could have been a lot better. 0 Share this post Link to post
Vaporizer Posted September 6, 2010 DuckReconMajor said:And I vote all Hexen haters get eated by Korax 0 Share this post Link to post
ReFracture Posted September 6, 2010 I played through Hexen once, I didn't hate it, but I'm least likely to play it again anytime soon when compared to all the other iwads. 0 Share this post Link to post
Creaphis Posted September 6, 2010 My least favourite? Doom1.wad. I like the levels, sure, but reaching the end of a demo has always been a painful experience for me. 0 Share this post Link to post
Philnemba Posted September 6, 2010 none :P DuckReconMajor said:And I vote all Hexen haters get eated by Korax 0 Share this post Link to post
TheDarkArchon Posted September 6, 2010 Hexen's easily the worst of the Doom engine games. There's simply not enough weapons which makes fighting stuff dull and I'm not a fan of the puzzles in that game either. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted September 6, 2010 TNT. It's not that it's all bad but this thing is so uneven that it's very hard to sit through. In the end I just made myself a MAPINFO that shortens it to the 15 best levels. At least that one's fun to play unlike the full thing. 0 Share this post Link to post
myk Posted September 7, 2010 In order, from best to worst: DOOM II I've had the most fun with this one due to game play and possibilities. DOOM Almost as cool as the above but somewhat more limited in most departments. Plutonia Excellent level set exploiting what DOOM II encouraged. DOOM shareware Who can forget starting off with the first episode? It'll stick forever. The Ultimate DOOM Cool, but was there really a need to embed the new (and good) PWAD in there that way? TNT Not bad as a "megawad" but somewhat redundant with all the above. Hexen Neat atmosphere in a somewhat limited game, taking the fantasy genre where it belongs (with the stereotypical classes.) Heretic Good idea but most of the differences with DOOM just make it somewhat worse. ROTT Kind of neat, but mostly ugly and could never really get into it. Freedoom Would be better as a game of its own rather than a shadow of its predecessors. Strife Never liked the style nor the new game play elements, but the water texture looks cool :p 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted September 7, 2010 ROTT? Since when Rise of the Triad is a Doom IWAD? Or are you talking about something else? 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted September 7, 2010 Whatever, I'll follow myk's way of replying here. I have to choose from: Doom, Doom2, Tnt, Plutonia, Heretic, Hexen, Strife1. Best to worst. 1. Strife1 Very coherent gameplay, and it's all a single hub. They managed to include mission objectives and characters into a first-person shooter. Gameplay can get as challenging as it can get, and level design is good. 2. Hexen Second to Strife. It's now divided into several hubs, so there's a bit more linearity. Some pretty inventive scripts and effects for a company like Raven who later made that Hexen 2 near-flop. Classes are very fun even with just four weapons like in Wolf3d. Each hub has lots and lots of levels to keep you busy and exploring. Music is lovely, better than Strife's overall. 3. Heretic Sorry, but this really takes Doom's cake, because it has more well-designed levels than Doom. All three retail episodes are awesome, and the two expansions ones aren't half bad. D'sparil is very tough. Also, having an inventory with important powerups you can activate when things get dire means you have more control on your survival than in Doom, so you basically live longer, as dying is frustrating. 4. Doom The game that started it all... is on the fourth place. In any case, its four episodes value more for me than the 32-level glop that's in every other IWAD. Also, I love the music and the skies. Bad points go for some extremely easy levels... At least I can salvage them by going -fast. 5. Tnt I like this for the good music and the distinctive Team-TNT level design that can't be replicated. Some very interesting levels within. 6. Doom2 Kinda sloppy, with joke levels like Barrels of Fun or the Chasm, what can you expect? It has some nice playground levels for testing new monsters, like Suburbs, but otherwise it's sloppy, more made for commercial purposes (but incidentally helping the community grow too). Hey, it was officially dubbed "Commercial Doom" after all. 7. Plutonia HEY, WHAT'S THIS DOING IN THE LAST PLACE, BELOW DOOM2?! Yeah but I don't think I like its over-the-top difficulty in cramped layout. There's nothing fun about being bruised by so many people all the time in such close spaces. It's a really paranoic level design. Interesting, barring the different Doom version choices, my IWAD preference order is inversely proportional to the PWAD count for those games. It makes sense, because people are less motivated to design new maps for something already populated with great levels. 0 Share this post Link to post