fezzador Posted October 14, 2010 Does the Doom song "Sinister" utilize phrygian mode? 0 Share this post Link to post
PRIMEVAL Posted October 14, 2010 To an extent, yes. It uses the Minor 2nd and Minor 6th notes in the scale. However, it's not a true Phrygian mode as it uses notes from Harmonic and Natural minor scales as well, I think even a major 3rd note is used. Though, I only took one class in Music Theory, so some people may be able to elaborate more. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bucket Posted October 14, 2010 I don't think even Bobby Prince would know what the hell you're talking about. 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted October 14, 2010 fezzador said:Does the Doom song "Sinister" utilize phrygian mode? What? I thought "phrygian", "ionian" etc. was used for folklore music... 0 Share this post Link to post
PRIMEVAL Posted October 14, 2010 printz said:What? I thought "phrygian", "ionian" etc. was used for folklore music... Phrygian is used a lot in Metal and Rock. If I recall correctly, Phrygian is the same as the Natural Minor scale, but with a Minor 2nd rather than Major. eg: A, A#, C, D, E, F, G, A I forget what Ionian was. 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted October 14, 2010 PRIMEVAL said:I forget what Ionian was. Nevermind, maybe I made up that word. I'm sure they were called after Greek peoples, though. 0 Share this post Link to post
PRIMEVAL Posted October 14, 2010 printz said:Nevermind, maybe I made up that word. I'm sure they were called after Greek peoples, though. Ionian sounds familiar, I'm pretty sure it is a Mode. 0 Share this post Link to post
Snakes Posted October 14, 2010 This conversation makes very little sense to me... just like this debate from Cannibal! The Musical http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xKl0e8jALY#t=02m20s 0 Share this post Link to post
magicsofa Posted October 14, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_mode Iolian is a scale...there's tons of them, like dorian, mixolydian I thought there was also Aeolian 0 Share this post Link to post
PRIMEVAL Posted October 14, 2010 Duh... wikipedia, why didn't I think of that? XP Yeah, I'm more familiar with the Modern Phrygian mode than the others listed. 0 Share this post Link to post
Optiks Posted October 17, 2010 Ionian is just another name for the major scale. Aeolian is the minor scale. Phrygian is 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 so Primeval's example should be: A Bb C D E F G. 0 Share this post Link to post
Guest Posted October 18, 2010 It is almost wrong to pick a mode, as it doesn't really stay in any particular mode, though it is probably closest to phrygian mode, with notes borrowed from aeolian and locrian, and just about every other mode in existence. Let's just call it chromatic mode to be safe. o_0 As Bucket said, probably not even Bobby Prince knows. The main theme (in E): D# - E - F - E - F# - E - G - D Then after a few bars, you add a perfect 5th above all these notes, so you get a repeat of the main melody higher up: A# - B - C - B - C# - B - D - A D# - E - F - E - F# - E - G - D Then a little later, you get a third harmony line inbetween these two. A# - B - C - B - C# - B - D - A F# - G - A - G - A# - G - B - F# D# - E - F - E - F# - E - G - D This middle line changes each chord, defining major and minor rather than merely being the same melody repeated at a higher interval. Then you take this whole progression and move it around into different keys. It starts in E, goes to A, back to E, then to B, A, then finishing in E. Well pretty close to this. (Bobby Prince does this a lot, follows loosely a "12 bar blues" progression. Listen to the classic music from E1M1, it does exactly the same thing.) Dont know if I am just overly complicating things, but I had fun working this out anyway. Cheers. 0 Share this post Link to post