Csonicgo Posted January 6, 2011 Wakefield’s article linking MMR vaccine and autism was fraudulent. Of course we knew that before, but now we have concrete evidence of fraud. http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452.full The most damning parts: Who perpetrated this fraud? There is no doubt that it was Wakefield. Is it possible that he was wrong, but not dishonest: that he was so incompetent that he was unable to fairly describe the project, or to report even one of the 12 children’s cases accurately? No. A great deal of thought and effort must have gone into drafting the paper to achieve the results he wanted: the discrepancies all led in one direction; misreporting was gross. Moreover, although the scale of the GMC’s 217 day hearing precluded additional charges focused directly on the fraud, the panel found him guilty of dishonesty concerning the study’s admissions criteria, its funding by the Legal Aid Board, and his statements about it afterwards. Meanwhile the damage to public health continues, fuelled by unbalanced media reporting and an ineffective response from government, researchers, journals, and the medical profession. Of the 71 children infected with mumps, 68 had not been immunised. Not only was he a fraud, but a good one at that. and he could have cost lives. Yet his loyal throng of "motherly instincts" followers is why Jenny McCarthy's tits are on the Screen on Oprah or some other talk show nonsense saying that it's "Big Pharma" behind all this debunking. Edit: url of an autism site defending this bastard: http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/01/the-british-medical-journal-shows-misjudgement-bias-in-further-attack-on-andrew-wakefield.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e20147e14e2aba970b Full of woo-woo and lulz. I hope Wakefield and the lawyers who paid him get sued for and lose every penny they have. 0 Share this post Link to post
Aliotroph? Posted January 6, 2011 The bastard probably has cost lives. There have been many more cases of measles since his fake study was published, quite possibly because parents stopped vaccinating their kids. I suppose now he'll just go work for some dodgy new-age outfit that doesn't need him to be a real doctor. 0 Share this post Link to post
phi108 Posted January 6, 2011 To the Googol! These images show rates in England, pretty evident trend. http://granades.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ukmeaslesandmmr.png http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/measles-rates.jpg I wasn't paying much attention to this vaccine craziness, it was just an annoying news topic. If this guy made false claims knowingly, he deserves a heck of a lot of punishment. 0 Share this post Link to post
arrrgh Posted January 6, 2011 What exactly was the point of campaigning against mercury-containing vaccines if he knew they were safe anyway 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted January 7, 2011 MSM has picked it up... waiting for the spin on it. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted January 7, 2011 Good. We practically had measles obliterated before this shit. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted January 7, 2011 arrrgh said:What exactly was the point of campaigning against mercury-containing vaccines if he knew they were safe anyway A quick re-read of the previous thread on this subject turned up these gems.But an investigation by a British journalist found financial and scientific conflicts that Dr. Wakefield did not reveal in his paper. For instance, part of the costs of Dr. Wakefield’s research were paid by lawyers for parents seeking to sue vaccine makers for damages. Dr. Wakefield was also found to have patented in 1997 a measles vaccine that would succeed if the combined vaccine were withdrawn or discredited. 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted January 7, 2011 Ugh, that thread brought up homeopathy. my mom got into that sometime this week or so, cause her order confirmations showed up in my email (she used it as well as me back in the day)... I need to have a talk with her about that scam. 0 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted January 7, 2011 One of my older cousins ended up marrying this organic farmer guy who also believes heavily in no vaccinations (among many other things that just make no sense). Almost everyone else in the family thinks he is insane, and the impression I'm getting from everyone is that my cousin is actually suffering from his strange lifestyles. I'm not sure if he was actually influenced by the original "study" or whatever you want to call it, but it's still just slightly insane. 0 Share this post Link to post
DooMAD Posted January 7, 2011 From what I understood, the Lancet actually issued a retraction and apology for publishing the article shortly after, but by that time the tabloids and conspiracy theorists had god hold of it and it spread like wildfire even after being discredited. Sure, this Wakefield guy is a sack of crap, but people are still idiots and will believe anything they're fed without checking the facts first. It doesn't matter how many times it's proven the vaccine is safe, there will now always be a small minority who won't trust it. Damage done. 0 Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted January 7, 2011 Csonicgo said:Ugh, that thread brought up homeopathy. my mom got into that sometime this week or so, cause her order confirmations showed up in my email (she used it as well as me back in the day)... I need to have a talk with her about that scam. Something rage-inducing that I saw the other day... 0 Share this post Link to post
Quasar Posted January 7, 2011 fraggle said:Something rage-inducing that I saw the other day... Start lobbying for better truth-in-labeling laws :P 0 Share this post Link to post
kristus Posted January 7, 2011 Aliotroph? said:The bastard has cost lives. Fixed that for you. The man got blood on his hands. So do that bitch Jenny McCarthy. 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted January 7, 2011 Bucket said:jennymccarthybodycount.com THANK YOU. I joined JMBC on facebook and have been keeping up on this for a while now. She is still supporting Wakefield, and now is going into conspiracy theory mode. She's insane. http://skepchick.org/blog/2011/01/wakefield-from-disgraced-md-to-gdmfl/ this is hilarious and a great link if you don't want to read the whole paper:Wakefield may be disgraced. He may have a destroyed career. But he continues to be hailed a hero amongst the anti-vax crowd. He’ll still get his speaker fees. He’ll still get his royalties. And his hoax will continue to scare parents and cost people their health for years to come. :( 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted January 7, 2011 Bucket said:jennymccarthybodycount.com I hope that cunt burns in hell. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ralphis Posted January 7, 2011 You guys are usually more hateful than the preachers you preach against preaching. What's with that? 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted January 7, 2011 Ralphis said:You guys are usually more hateful than the preachers you preach against preaching. What's with that? Because they are feeding on the ignorances of uneducated parents to support a cause that has zero scientific evidence. They are putting their children at risk along with other children and adults. 0 Share this post Link to post
Udderdude Posted January 7, 2011 Who cares about a couple of dead kids? He's living the American(tm) Dream. USA! USA! USA! 0 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted January 7, 2011 The preventable cases count is kinda scary. It does not give me good feelings about the trend of number of deaths. 0 Share this post Link to post
kristus Posted January 8, 2011 http://www.2ue.com.au/blogs/2ue-blog/to-vaccinate-or-not/20110107-19i9a.html 0 Share this post Link to post
Aliotroph? Posted January 8, 2011 udderdude said:Who cares about a couple of dead kids? He's living the American(tm) Dream. USA! USA! USA! He's British. That interview was funny. Two women having a bitch fight. Today correct bitch wins. Tomorrow nobody can predict. 0 Share this post Link to post