Level editors

[sleepy_boy]

What's your favorite?

[Erik]

deth

[dr_st]

deth

Yeah!

[pritch]

DeePsea, then Deth, cos I'm not very good.

Deth for pros. Look at Alien Vendetta.

[Crendowing]

Only one I've used is WadAuthor, so yeah.......

[Zaldron]

Favorite? DCK

[Liam]

DeePSea.

There's no such thing as an editor for 'pros', btw. Deth can do as much as Wadauthor, DeePSea, DCK, or any other editor can do and no more.

[Erik]

Still, deth comes with minimal documentation and isn't a picnic to learn so it's not a beginners editor.

[Liam]

Still, deth comes with minimal documentation and isn't a picnic to learn so it's not a beginners editor.

There are such things as a 'beginners' editor but not a 'pros' editor. Some editors are easier to learn than others but when it comes down to it no editor can do any more than any other, so it's a matter of preference once you already know what you're doing.

[Crendowing]

Speaking of which, before I forget, how in the Hell do you get it to where an action happens when a certain enemy gets killed (e.g., a door doesn't open or the level isn't exited until the Cyberdemon(s) die(s))?

[Liam]

Speaking of which, before I forget, how in the Hell do you get it to where an action happens when a certain enemy gets killed (e.g., a door doesn't open or the level isn't exited until the Cyberdemon(s) die(s))?

Sounds like you already forgot :p

You can only do that on certain maps with certain monsters. If you create a map that runs on e2m8 and put a cyberdemon in it, the map will end. There's no way to do that on any other Doom 1 map. It's hardcoded into the .exe.

[læmænt]

I have no idea what's my favourite, but yadex is the only one i can use

[Crendowing]

Sounds like you already forgot :p

Fuck you too.

What I meant when I said "before I forget", I meant "before I forget to ask".

Anywho, maybe I should elaborate more. I've played a googleplex other levels in which something was activated when an enemy was killed.

And apparently you didn't read the whole post Liam. I didn't limit my question to exiting a level. What I wanted to know was how to like, say, have a lift raise or a door open when a Baron OR Cyberdemon OR any group of enemies was killed.

For exmaple: let's say I wanted to make a level where the key to the exit door was on a small lift below the floor, but the lift wouldn't rise until the Baron(s) was/were dead, or a wall didn't lower until that happened (E1M8 anybody?).

[Zeratul 982]

E1M8:
» Sector(s) with 666 tag lower to lowest height when Baron(s) are killed.

E2M8:
» Level exits when Cyberdemon(s) are killed.

E3M8:
» Level exits when Spider Mastermind(s) are killed.

E4M8:
» Sector(s) with 666 tag lower to lowest height when Spider Mastermind(s) are killed.

Map07:
» Sector(s) with 666 tag lower to lowest height when Mancubi/Mancubus'/Mancubuses* are killed.
» Sector(s) with 667 tag raise to nearest floor height when Arachnotron(s) are killed.

Mapxx:
» Sectors with 666 tag opens like door when Commander Keen(s) are killed.


(* Don't start.)

[Crendowing]

Well, that did clear things up a bit, but I could have sworn that I've played other levels in which actions like that happened on other maps.

[Zeratul 982]

A map with a modified MAPINFO lump.

[Crendowing]

Oh boy, and I'll bet it takes a master programmer/editor to do THAT!

[Liam]

Sounds like you already forgot :p

Fuck you too.

What I meant when I said "before I forget", I meant "before I forget to ask".

Anywho, maybe I should elaborate more. I've played a googleplex other levels in which something was activated when an enemy was killed.

Well what I said still applied. I was giving one of several examples.

[Katgut]

E1M8:
» Sector(s) with 666 tag lower to lowest height when Baron(s) are killed.

E2M8:
» Level exits when Cyberdemon(s) are killed.

E3M8:
» Level exits when Spider Mastermind(s) are killed.

E4M8:
» Sector(s) with 666 tag lower to lowest height when Spider Mastermind(s) are killed.

Map07:
» Sector(s) with 666 tag lower to lowest height when Mancubi/Mancubus'/Mancubuses* are killed.
» Sector(s) with 667 tag raise to nearest floor height when Arachnotron(s) are killed.

Mapxx:
» Sectors with 666 tag opens like door when Commander Keen(s) are killed.


(* Don't start.)

You forgot the E4M6 one, where sectors tagged 666 open like doors when the Cyberdemon(s) are killed.

'Course, you might not have gotten that far through E4M6.