The amazing "identify that Doom song" thread.

[DMPhobos]

Gonna try again...

 

Here's this midi i once found in the mid 00's on a site where it was listed as a midi from the Alien movies (it's not), later i found it had been used on an old wad from 2002 called SlayeR.wad as the intermission music. I'm curious if anyone knows anything about this midi since i have no idea if it's based on a movie, game or if it's an original midi

 

Alien.zip

[Dynamo]

On 2/1/2024 at 1:54 AM, DMPhobos said:

Gonna try again...

 

Here's this midi i once found in the mid 00's on a site where it was listed as a midi from the Alien movies (it's not), later i found it had been used on an old wad from 2002 called SlayeR.wad as the intermission music. I'm curious if anyone knows anything about this midi since i have no idea if it's based on a movie, game or if it's an original midi

 

Alien.zip

I don't recognize it, but have you checked if it is from one of the Alien videogames for SNES/Mega Drive?

[DMPhobos]

5 hours ago, Dynamo said:

I don't recognize it, but have you checked if it is from one of the Alien videogames for SNES/Mega Drive?

 

I'm familiar with the music of the snes/mega drive alien games. It's not from there sadly

[plums]

On 2/1/2024 at 12:54 AM, DMPhobos said:

listed as a midi from the Alien movies (it's not)

Just for fun I made a video of it and uploaded it to youtube to see if I'd get any copyright claims, and I did... for "Alien Theme" by Warner Chappell >:(

 

edit: replaced the video now that I have a match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJJ4CvJI_Hw

 

It definitely sounds like video game music of some sort but beyond that I have no idea.

 

edit: is this you? https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1053645#p1053645

Edited February 5 by plums

[DMPhobos]

1 hour ago, plums said:

edit: is this you? https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1053645#p1053645

No, that's not me lmao

 

Seems i'm not the first one to get curious about that midi, that places it many years before i thought tho

[plums]

@DMPhobos Got it! It's from Metaltech: Earthsiege. No yt video of just the soundtrack, but here's a longplay where you can hear it briefly.

https://youtu.be/egUowJ-QP9E?list=PL9E501F1FA8F6EBCD&t=264

 

The game was released as freeware in 2015 fyi.

[DMPhobos]

56 minutes ago, plums said:

It's from Metaltech: Earthsiege.

 

Oh wow that's it, you got it!!. No wonder why i couldn't find anything about it since it's unrelated to anything Alien related (wonder how it got identified as such for a long time), interestingly after looking up the music, it seems there are many variants of that music ingame.

 

Amazing, thank you for identifying the source!

[Gregor]

10 hours ago, plums said:

@DMPhobos Got it! It's from Metaltech: Earthsiege. No yt video of just the soundtrack, but here's a longplay where you can hear it briefly.

https://youtu.be/egUowJ-QP9E?list=PL9E501F1FA8F6EBCD&t=264

 

The game was released as freeware in 2015 fyi.

Nice catch! How in the world did you find that one? You just happen to be a massive Earthsiege fan?

 

Btw, you can find the soundtrack for Metaltech: Earthsiege on khinsider.com. It's track 15.

Edited February 5 by Gregor

[plums]

9 hours ago, Gregor said:

Nice catch! How in the world did you find that one? You just happen to be a massive Earthsiege fan?

Never played Earthsiege. I got kind of invested in finding out what the track was though, and it sounded very much to me like a mid-90s PC game midi, which limited the scope of its source to something maybe findable, as opposed to just a random midi made by someone. So I did some detective work.

 

I have a whole lot of midis on my computer, in particular from here: https://archive.org/details/video-game-music-90000-midi-files

 

-First I checked the file against my midi library for an exact file match (using Linux command-line tools, took about 30s to actually type in and ~10 min to run). This came up empty.

-Then I searched a bit for things like "alien midi", "alien theme midi" etc., and after not too long came across this version. Being a PC game rip it was quite likely that there are multiple files that differ slightly but are the exact same track. (Often PC games had music in a midi-like format that needs to be converted, and so different conversions will produce different byte-specific results.)

-That new file did have an exact match, as a Donkey Kong Country 3 midi (but not actually), called "dkc3undr.mid". That lead me to that ZDoom forum post above which saved me having to look through DKC3 music looking for what song it was, and knowing that it was made no later than 1996 basically confirmed my thoughts that it was from a PC game.

-I still didn't have the actual source, but the second file had a bit more text info in it -- all the channels started with [FG] in the channel name, followed by the instrument.

-Searched my midi library again for other tracks that had [FG]. Came up with midis from two games: "Command: Aces of the Deep" and "Trophy Bass (1996)". Those obviously weren't going to be the game it was from, but let's look them up... aha! They were both developed by Dynamix. That couldn't be a coincidence.

-So then I looked through the list of Dynamix games starting at 1996 and going backwards, for any game that sounded like it might be space/sci-fi/military/etc. and have music like that. Earthsiege was not too far down that list, and I did have midis for it in my library, and it didn't take long for me to go through them and find it.

 

9 hours ago, Gregor said:

Btw, you can find the soundtrack for Metaltech: Earthsiege on khinsider.com. It's track 15. 

Is that the right site? khinsider.com is a Kingdom Hearts fanpage.

 

9 hours ago, DMPhobos said:

interestingly after looking up the music, it seems there are many variants of that music ingame.

Neat, I'll give the rest of the tracks a listen, I just skimmed through them and stopped when I found it.

 

 

While I have the stage, I'll repost my own white whale of Doom midi searches: the music from MAP02 of Rylayeh.

Some discussion from when I asked last: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/1576825

render of the midi on yt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytm-4HAi-o4

 

Edited February 5 by plums

[Gregor]

@plums Impressive! That's some proper detective work indeed.

That midi archive is also very neat. I'm often in the need of finding the identity of some obscure midi for various wiki articles. Thanks for that!

And khinsider is a well-known website for game soundtracks. https://downloads.khinsider.com

[Async Unicorn]

Does anyone knows who's the author of this MIDI, how it's called, and where it was used?

I listen it for a couple of days non-stopping, it motivates me mapping and so I want to know who's this genius who wrote this masterpiece.

I remember extracting it from some megawad in march 2023, it's called D_Runnin2, so I guess it was from MAP15, but from which MAP15 - that's the question...

D_RUNNIN2.zip

 

UPD: The mystery is solved, it's James Paddock - Ocean of Truth.

Thank you, Jimmy, for your wonderful music, I'll be sure to check out all of your other work too!

Edited February 26 by Vanilla+Unicorn

[OpenRift]

Okay, so I've had this stuck in my head all morning. This MIDI is from MAP01 of Doomkid's Duelzones. Is this like a cover of something? Or is this original? @Doomkid do you know/remember?

 

D_RUNNIN.zip

[TheBlurCafe]

On 3/14/2024 at 7:15 PM, OpenRift said:

Okay, so I've had this stuck in my head all morning. This MIDI is from MAP01 of Doomkid's Duelzones. Is this like a cover of something? Or is this original? @Doomkid do you know/remember?

 

D_RUNNIN.zip

 

Found it!

It's a cover of the song "Ecuador" by Sash!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQlVww0zKo

[invictius]

From the AMC tc, and intermission in Compendium.  By Alexandr Zhelanov but just called untitled.

D_DM2INT.rar

[MOSTech6502]

On 6/22/2020 at 7:21 AM, Bashe said:

UPDATE: I was able to source the one that also got used in Mega Trickster's Mistake. It's called TECHRAP.mid and was composed by Kevin Newman in 1995. According to this video, it was a sample song for a set of Gravis Ultrasound patches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq1C0CPZDmk

 

 

Hi there.  I'm the uploader of these MIDI renders to YouTube, and I feel the need to correct the record on this one :)  While these MIDIs were shipped along with the Pro Patches Lite distribution, they weren't actually composed for the patch set.  It's really just a bundle of random pre-existing MIDIs that the patch authors thought sounded good - including other stuff like the Yamaha PSR keyboard demo MIDIs and some other stuff to show off a soundcard.  So while I found them in there it's not really the _source_ of these tunes.

 

TECHRAP.MID (and another classic MIDI, called KEVTECH.MID) are both composed by Kevin Newman in 1995.  He signed off with a University of Pretoria email address.  I haven't been able to find a ton of info about him, unfortunately, but I did run across this Usenet post to alt.binaries.sounds.midi releasing KEVTECH.MID to the wild (and indicating the "correct" playback device!):

Quote

 

ABOUT THIS FILE:

 

Sequenced with:   Cakewalk Professional for Windows 2.01

Sequenced by:     Kevin Newman <[email protected]>

Style of music:   Techno/Electronic

Midi device:      Sound Canvas SC33

Playback details:

  There should be patch changes in the first bar of each track. (I'm not

  sure if Calkwalk puts them there, but it should.) I sequenced the song 

  with the "Pan Delay" effect, so it will sound best if you can use a

  similar effect. I have made use of panning, so it will sound better

  if you can use a pair of headphones or a stereo hi-fi. If it sounds a

  bit monotonous, it's because the song was written to be sung/rapped to,

  and this is only the midi data.

 

  Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated at the above e-mail address.

 

  Enjoy!

 

 

It seems likely the MIDI was composed standalone, rather than for any particular software, and as such they bounced around the early Web making their way into different distributions with no sourcing info.  For example, regarding TECHRAP.MID, I got this comment on my upload:

Quote

 

Long long ago, this midi was distributed on the official 'GameMaker' website as part of a resource package (specifically Resource Pack 02) intended to provide users of the software with premade assets to use their games.

 

Anyway, long story short: correct track name, wrong track source :)

[SuperCupcakeTactics]

I'd like to know what the music is that plays in E2M9 of THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE ARCHITECTURAL if anyone knows it please

[TheBlurCafe]

7 hours ago, SuperCupcakeTactics said:

I'd like to know what the music is that plays in E2M9 of THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE ARCHITECTURAL if anyone knows it please

 

Hi there!

I think I found it, it's "Every Little Step" by Bobby Brown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0FKzPfsxA4

 

[SuperCupcakeTactics]

5 hours ago, TheBlurCafe said:

 

Hi there!

I think I found it, it's "Every Little Step" by Bobby Brown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0FKzPfsxA4

 

Thank you :D