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Things about Doom you just found out

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The death explosions from the Icon of Sin can harm and kill the player.

 

I found this out the hard way.

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In the inaccessible outside area of E1M6, the lines separating the main sector from the shadowy low sky sector are impassable.

noentry.png

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thanks to maes's userphoto i learned that there is a 1px hole (or gray spot) that disappears and reappears in the back of the cyberdemon sprite...... thanks @Maes ......

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On 2018/2/28 at 4:54 PM, Novaseer said:

The death explosions from the Icon of Sin can harm and kill the player.

 

I found this out the hard way.


I remembered some PWADs used this as suicide exit(make the next level pistol start)...

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If you die and slide to the exit, you'll complete the level, but start the next one with just a pistol. Could be useful if you want to strip a player's weapons I guess, lol

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@Jthom damn, all those years i have no idea you can actually complete level even if you dead. Im curious, does speedruning accept this "way" to finnish the level or not?

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1 hour ago, Jthom said:

If you die and slide to the exit, you'll complete the level, but start the next one with just a pistol. Could be useful if you want to strip a player's weapons I guess, lol

 

It happens numerous times in notable megawads such as Scythe II. :)

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Yeah, I actually saw it in Scythe II, where the player gets crushed before the level ends. I guess I thought it required special scripting or a special event or something, in order to happen. Seems like a pretty cool way to end a level IMO. 

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Found out another thing.

One of Doom's door textures (W105_1) has a left over part of a bitmap on it.

W105_1.png

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On 2/26/2018 at 11:44 PM, DELUXE said:

The pain elemental has the same arms as the imp.

Wow... I never noticed that. I knew the body was lifted entirely from the Cacodemon, and the eye appears to be a re-colored invisibility sphere, horns from the Cyberdemon... but I never noticed the arms were taken from the imp. Huh, learn something every day.

Edited by Jello : Removed quoted image.

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Great frankensprite when you think about it. It makes me wish the Hell Knight was more than just a recolored Baron.

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3 hours ago, cyan0s1s said:

Great frankensprite when you think about it. It makes me wish the Hell Knight was more than just a recolored Baron.

 

I'm fine with that. Better than the D3/D2016 versions, for me anyway.

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22 hours ago, Marlamir said:

@Jthom damn, all those years i have no idea you can actually complete level even if you dead. Im curious, does speedruning accept this "way" to finnish the level or not?

AFAIK, I believe it's "acceptable" because you're still actually finishing the level...

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22 hours ago, Marlamir said:

@Jthom damn, all those years i have no idea you can actually complete level even if you dead. Im curious, does speedruning accept this "way" to finnish the level or not?

 

Yes. For the most part -- old-school Compet-N convention forbade deaths in coop runs, although most modern runners that have an opinion about it think that is dumb.

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On 2018/3/2 at 12:01 PM, joshthenesnerd said:

thanks to maes's userphoto i learned that there is a 1px hole (or gray spot) that disappears and reappears in the back of the cyberdemon sprite...... thanks @Maes ......

I think that dot was added by Maes?

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On 9/23/2011 at 10:32 AM, SeanWJF said:

The Berserk pack lasts the whole level.

Quality of life significantly improved.

I found this out recently as well.  I rarely ever used the actual berserk effect because I suck at close quarters melee stuff.  So I always just looked at them as a 100% health boost.  Pick it up, automatically switch back to shotgun, lol.

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4 hours ago, rdwpa said:

Yes. For the most part -- old-school Compet-N convention forbade deaths in coop runs, although most modern runners that have an opinion about it think that is dumb.

It is more nuanced than that - death exits are and were completely OK in coop. For instance, this was uncontroversially accepted as a Compet-n record in 2002: http://doomedsda.us/lmps/946/7/pc01-007.zip

 

What is not OK (unless the non-standard category "coop with deaths" is specified) is one player simply getting killed (e.g. early on in the level) and another later exiting. There are inevitably borderline cases where it gets a little messy.

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On 2/26/2018 at 11:04 AM, Novaseer said:

That this room exists in Doom 2016. It's not even a secret.
(Res Ops, after the airlock with the Security in, to the right)

sincewhen.jpg

 

Just found out about this after doing a little backtracking, it was a welcome surprise.

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playing Doom episode one on UV -respawn and not setting foot in any of the secrets is amazing and fun (assuming you're like me and prefer facing shotgunners to slaughter hordes)

 

it's weird to know a level so inside-out that you can pretend you don't know where any of the secrets are but then again, it's a virtue too =P

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I just found out that changing languages in Doom 2016 not only changes the text, it changes the voices as well.

Hearing VEGA announcing things in Russian or Japanese is quite nice.

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things about the /idgames/ upload process I just found out: teh automated submission text reader looks for the first instance of the word "title" and copies everything after it into that field, so if you accidentally left junk data in your .txt then the new name of your level set becomes something insane. :)))

 

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/v-z/ztheresa

is there anyway of fixing this so that the title is just "Theresa"? thanks, sorry to be annoying

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In Doom 2 Map04: The sectors with the grey MIDSPACE texture are raised (action door open) when you pick up the blue key. I believe they share a similar tag to the IMPs that open on the side. Also In Doom 2 Map06, you can press use on the side of the red key door (DOORTRAK texture), the lines trigger the red door aswell.

Kudos to @JCD for noticing and sharing!

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On 3/9/2018 at 4:32 AM, yakfak said:

is there anyway of fixing this so that the title is just "Theresa"? thanks, sorry to be annoying

Reupload with a corrected .txt file, probably. Maybe mention in your email that you just needed to update it.

I think doing that should just replace the existing file with one that has the correct .txt file.

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