Gez Posted February 7, 2012 This boasts 1300 levels for Doom, 90 for Doom II, 220 tools and editors for Doom, shareware Doom, and a bunch of other stuff a lot less relevant to this forum. Full listing is there. What will interest people is the content of D_WADS and D_II_WADS; maybe D_TOOLS but I'd be surprised. I have two questions: 1. Can anybody identify the level on the cover picture? I've always wondered where they found this train station. 2. At least some of the levels are not on the idgames archive. I've checked a few names randomly and found some that I didn't find (heh). Does anyone know of a tool that can automate checking the archive for presence of a file somewhere? Because I'm not checking about 1400 files by hand. Also, if anybody sees there a lost file they want to get, don't hesitate. But to preempt the inevitable question: no, there aren't any Odessa levels in there. 3 Share this post Link to post
Acid Posted February 7, 2012 Holy shit 1300 levels!? Well, considering that each map is probably around 100kb, it wouldn't be that big, but still...1300!? 0 Share this post Link to post
Reisal Posted February 7, 2012 I find it funny how inconsistent the dates on the G_ADDONS directory's files are, ranging from as early as 1986 to 1994. 0 Share this post Link to post
Acid Posted February 7, 2012 Mr. Chris said:I find it funny how inconsistent the dates on the G_ADDONS directory's files are, ranging from as early as 1986 to 1994. Similarly: Line 2603 --> 01/01/1601 01:00 2 Share this post Link to post
PRIMEVAL Posted February 7, 2012 BloodyAcid said:Similarly: Line 2603 --> 01/01/1601 01:00 Sounds legit. King Charles I enjoyed his fair share of demon slaughtering. 7 Share this post Link to post
hex11 Posted February 7, 2012 If you already have a mirror of /idgames (even a really old one) then your best bet is probably to run one of those duplicate file checking tools (often used to scan through tons of picture files). I never needed to try any of them, but there exists a bunch of *nix things of that nature. Just looking real quick though my /usr/ports tree, I found this: http://netdial.caribe.net/~adrian2/fdupes.htmlFdupes is a program for identifying or deleting duplicate files residing within specified directories. This one uses MD5 hashes to identify files. You could probably build it in OS/X or Cygwin, but might as well search for a native equivalent first... It's nothing complicated though, any decent scripting language can be used to write an equivalent tool very quickly. 0 Share this post Link to post
kmxexii Posted February 7, 2012 As can be expected, some of the unarchived files are early versions of WADs presently on idgames. I recognize two editions of Chris Klie's THUD series (compiled into BF_THUD) and an early version of SIN2_9 by Kurt Maples, not to mention what are likely individual releases of some of the RAVEN series. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted February 7, 2012 Nice find, don't recognize the location. Gez said:Does anyone know of a tool that can automate checking the archive for presence of a file somewhere? Best I can do is compare that list against one generated from my archive. 0 Share this post Link to post
Captain Toenail Posted February 7, 2012 There is a map on the Maximum disc that may be the one featured on that cover. It was a large grey level with many tube train stations and has a picture of Taz the Tasmanian Tiger at the start. In fact it might even be called Tasmania, but I'm not sure. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted February 8, 2012 It's not Castle Tazmania, that's mostly brick and wood. Does anyone recognize the custom texture in those posters? 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted February 8, 2012 GreyGhost said:Best I can do is compare that list against one generated from my archive. That'd be a start, thanks. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted February 8, 2012 I'm getting plenty of name matches but no size or datestamp matches to go with them as yet, so matching files involves a bit of guesswork. If you're able to generate a filtered list of the Zip's contents I'd stand a much better chance of matching the wads. Most of the Zips are older than their assumed counterparts in /idgames, though that probably just means they did a bit of BBS-hopping before reaching the archive. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted February 8, 2012 Many of the zips contain the old FILE_ID.DIZ stuff; which is also why a hash match on the zips themselves wouldn't be enough to sort out duplicates. I'll look into generating a more useful list. 0 Share this post Link to post
david_a Posted February 8, 2012 I think the cover might be SUBWAY.WAD. Note that this guess is based on memories of a map I last played probably 14 years ago and the idgames description that seemed the most familiar, so I might be wrong :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted February 8, 2012 david_a said:I think the cover might be SUBWAY.WAD. Note that this guess is based on memories of a map I last played probably 14 years ago and the idgames description that seemed the most familiar, so I might be wrong :) I've checked, and no; it's not subway.wad (subway21.zip) nor subway11. There's some interesting custom textures in subway.wad. Nothing mind-boggling, but it's nice to see custom resources in so old a file that haven't been reused everywhere since. The MIDI, however, is horrible. :) By the way, if anybody wants to get a better view of the cover, here's a high-res scan (1410x1414). 0 Share this post Link to post
david_a Posted February 8, 2012 Hmm, looks like that's actually a sky ceiling... The things on the wall look like pictures of a Borg or something. 0 Share this post Link to post
Urban Space Cowboy Posted February 8, 2012 Gez said: Also, if anybody sees there a lost file they want to get, don't hesitate. But to preempt the inevitable question: no, there aren't any Odessa levels in there. [/B]Suggest you submit it to cd.textfiles.com, once it's up there everyone can poke at it at their leisure. 0 Share this post Link to post
Acid Posted February 9, 2012 david_a said:Hmm, looks like that's actually a sky ceiling... The things on the wall look like pictures of a Borg or something. Borg? I thought that it was the map outline or something 0 Share this post Link to post
Avoozl Posted February 9, 2012 PRIMEVAL said:Sounds legit. King Charles I enjoyed his fair share of demon slaughtering. Ha ha! 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted February 10, 2012 Gez said:I'll look into generating a more useful list. I'm about 1/3 of the way through and might consider myself to have done well if 3/4 of the zips are identified. If a better listing tool is proving hard to find, you could point the command line version of 7-Zip at that CD and type... 7za.exe l e:\d_alien\*.zip > d_alien.txt 7za.exe l e:\d_ii_wad\*.zip > d_ii_wad.txt 7za.exe l e:\d_tools\*.zip > d_tools.txt 7za.exe l e:\d_wads\*.zip > d_wads.txt ...then let the hardcore wad archeologists wade through its verbose listings. 0 Share this post Link to post
hex11 Posted February 10, 2012 Some kind of checksum of the archives' contents would be very useful (much better than just file size & timestamp). 7za doesn't appear to list that, but my version of unzip does (UnZip 5.52 of 28 February 2005, by Info-ZIP). Example output: $ unzip -lv idgames/historic/doom0_2.zip Archive: doom0_2.zip Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name -------- ------ ------- ----- ---- ---- ------ ---- 540 Defl:X 346 36% 02-11-98 09:30 6d587c55 doom0_2.txt 118 Defl:X 106 10% 12-04-97 17:18 55969e60 readme.txt 259177 Defl:X 107030 59% 02-04-93 15:20 ab5e87f7 doom.exe 496250 Defl:X 152724 69% 02-04-93 15:20 2587d97b doom.wad -------- ------- --- ------- 756085 260206 66% 4 files Edit: well looks like "7za -slt l foobar.zip" would show the checksum, but in a much more verbose manner (like 12x more lines...) 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted February 10, 2012 That's certainly easier than what I had set out to do. d_alien.txt d_wads.txt, 11BONES.ZIP to E2L1GC.ZIP d_wads.txt, E2L2_GG1.ZIP to TEMPLE_2.ZIP d_wads.txt, TEST2KIL.ZIP to __DOOMCH.ZIP d_ii_wad.txt d_tools.txt d_wads.txt was big enough to need to be split into three parts. E: And while I was pasting all that, a better tool is suggested. d_alien.lst d_wads.lst, 11BONES.ZIP to FOREST21.ZIP d_wads.lst, FOREST30.ZIP to __DOOMCH.ZIP d_ii_wad.lst d_tools.lst 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted February 10, 2012 Being a bit of a masochist at heart, I've downloaded both sets of lists. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted February 11, 2012 How rude of me not to say "thanks". *slaps wrist* Thanks Gez. By way of penance I've reformatted and merged the listings so it now looks like this - Length Date Time CRC-32 Name Path -------- ---------- ----- -------- ---- ---- 46968 03/10/1994 04:13 6E9A1CF2 ALIENS.EXE D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 22817 03/10/1994 11:51 A1E19609 ALIENS.TXT D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 77978 11/09/1994 18:10 C8CF8B27 DEHACKED.EXE D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 97792 23/06/1994 22:20 510BB2D7 DMADDS.EXE D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 59138 03/05/1994 19:10 C0C8040B DMGRAPH.EXE D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 45356 08/09/1994 12:58 CB2BBC9F DMSTR.EXE D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 1503555 02/10/1994 14:11 A0839451 JF-0.WAD D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 1837 06/08/1994 01:46 446A74E1 JF-10.GIF D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 29271 25/09/1994 13:47 5B623D0E JF-18.STR D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 66874 03/10/1994 11:05 1F128F7C JF-19.DEH D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 2865568 03/10/1994 11:27 4F6878E8 JF-2.WAD D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 29271 08/09/1994 13:14 A89DCD72 JF-20.STR D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 1136232 02/10/1994 13:26 95FA1C81 JF-3.WAD D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 23626 03/10/1994 11:08 94E3E2B1 JF-4.DEH D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 1238 26/09/1994 22:34 B3F74D82 JF-5.GIF D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 2709 31/07/1994 08:59 F6250F27 JF-6.GIF D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 1694 22/05/1994 05:58 EDDD9173 JF-7.GIF D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 2019 17/05/1994 09:34 F0048A41 JF-8.GIF D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 2240 04/08/1994 23:46 39011FFF JF-9.GIF D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 256 26/11/1994 13:36 05748AC9 FILE_ID.DIZ D_ALIEN/ALIEN_TC.ZIP 2010 21/10/1994 19:08 39D38C28 REGISTER.NOW D_II_WAD/2ADOOMCH.ZIP 3312 09/08/1994 20:56 57E2E280 DC.EXE D_II_WAD/2ADOOMCH.ZIP 14009 31/10/1994 03:20 022E6EED DOOMCH.DOC D_II_WAD/2ADOOMCH.ZIP 623 31/10/1994 03:10 A832B3A1 PACKING.LST D_II_WAD/2ADOOMCH.ZIP 116512 31/10/1994 02:57 DB6D3FFC DOOMCH.EAT D_II_WAD/2ADOOMCH.ZIP 423 31/10/1994 03:20 972A505E FILE_ID.DIZ D_II_WAD/2ADOOMCH.ZIP 58295 03/11/1994 18:38 3DF29919 57EAST.WAD D_II_WAD/57EAST.ZIP 1213 03/11/1994 02:02 1546880D 57EAST.TXT D_II_WAD/57EAST.ZIP 170 03/11/1994 18:38 9F00E714 FILE_ID.DIZ D_II_WAD/57EAST.ZIP 34 23/09/1994 01:30 542941FA ACHE2.BAT D_II_WAD/ACHERON2.ZIP 5505 12/10/1994 17:20 7EBA12D3 ACHERON2.TXT D_II_WAD/ACHERON2.ZIP 307085 12/10/1994 16:34 CF59E9BE ACHERON2.WAD D_II_WAD/ACHERON2.ZIP 98 12/10/1994 17:20 1CFC1FBE FILE_ID.DIZ D_II_WAD/ACHERON2.ZIP 91220 04/11/1994 23:14 F7AA730D ARGUS.WAD D_II_WAD/ARGUS.ZIP 31 05/11/1994 23:59 8DAB140F ARGUS.BAT D_II_WAD/ARGUS.ZIP 8054 06/11/1994 00:17 C4121F33 ARGUS.TXT D_II_WAD/ARGUS.ZIP 456 06/11/1994 00:17 B4D907AF FILE_ID.DIZ D_II_WAD/ARGUS.ZIP Anyone who want's a copy can grab it from here. 0 Share this post Link to post
_bruce_ Posted February 11, 2012 GreyGhost said:It's not Castle Tazmania, that's mostly brick and wood. Does anyone recognize the custom texture in those posters? Nice map. 0 Share this post Link to post
Never_Again Posted January 12, 2020 On 2/6/2012 at 9:16 PM, Gez said: This boasts 1300 levels for Doom, 90 for Doom II, 220 tools and editors for Doom, shareware Doom, and a bunch of other stuff a lot less relevant to this forum.<snip> I have two questions: 1. Can anybody identify the level on the cover picture? I've always wondered where they found this train station. <snip> Ask and ye shall receive... Of course, that might take a while. ^_^ STREET.WAD now on idgames. Ironically, it was on the Gaminator CD all along. Pinging @Gez, @GreyGhostand @Zed 13 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted January 12, 2020 First the Vile Flesh midis, now this, I wonder what old and forgotten third wish will be fulfilled next. Thanks for the find! 2 Share this post Link to post
Marcaek Posted January 12, 2020 This map is shockingly good for 1994. Makes you wonder what other decent stuff exists on the edge of oblivion. 1 Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted January 13, 2020 There's a surprising amount of good/interesting stuff on shovelware discs. I've got a lot of extracted shovelware (all of the CDs from archive.org) that I'd love to post on DW but I'm sure there's iwads in there somewhere and I don't want to ruin the integrity of the archive by removing them Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post
