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Vordakk said:

Now Spike Lee has tweeted what he thought was Zimmerman's address to his over 240,000 twitter followers(it isn't Zimmerman's address but some guy thought it was and sent it to Lee, who just took the guy's word as solid gold). The elderly couple actually living at that residence has had to seek shelter in a hotel after receiving death threats and constant media bombardment. Good job, Spike! Way to make black America look intelligent! Did I mention that Spike Lee has a fundraiser going for ol' Barack?


Spike might've done something stupid, but it's rooted in the extremely poor way the police have been handling the investigation. If the Sanford PD had already detained Zimmerman and not continue to drag their feet regarding even a potential arrest, than this would not have happened.

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Vordakk said:

Did I mention that Spike Lee has a fundraiser going for ol' Barack?

Not by any relevant way, no.

But yeah, Spike Lee has a history of being quite the moron in spite of the fact that he's made some decent films over the years. He also once managed to piss off the other team at a Knicks game so much that a lot of fans blamed him directly for when the visiting team rallied. Yep.

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Snakes said:

Not by any relevant way, no.


Well you see they're both black, which means Obama and the Democrats are guilty of...being dumb black men that think they're smart and making the "good ones" (which is a racist belief in itself) look bad by association, I guess. It's not exactly clear.

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Vordakk said:

Did I mention that Spike Lee has a fundraiser going for ol' Barack?

No need to. The linked article does that, as well as indirectly blaming Obama for the re-tweet.

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Vordakk said:

Did I mention that Spike Lee has a fundraiser going for ol' Barack?


WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THIS MAKE?

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Technician said:

Spike is supporting the liberal Muslim socialist agenda, obviously.

GAWKER of all sites put this whole thing into perspective.

http://gawker.com/5896490/your-guide-to-the-idiotic-racist-backlash-against-trayvon-martin

One problem is that to those of us outside the self-shaking horseshit snow globe, smoking weed and having tattoos aren't evidence of anything. Most of us look at all the charges marshaled against Martin and see a kid. Many of us see our friends, or ourselves. There's a tragic irony to the fact that the only people Trayvon Martin was really able to fool into thinking he was anything but a baby-faced high schooler were the same people who think he deserved to be shot.

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That "little baby faced" boy was about the same size and weight as Zimmerman though, there are people on both sides of the argument that are saying it's a tragedy, so this whole putting words into the mouth's of people defending Zimmerman and trying to collectively portray them as insensitive because they don't hold the same stance as you is bullshit at it's best. The other side argues that if you get assaulted and someone is climbing onto you repeatedly smashing your head into the pavement and if you feel your life is in danger then you deserve to be able to defend yourself, not that you should just smile and play the better guy while he continues smashing your head into the floor, how do you know he's going to stop hitting you in time for a serious injury that leaves you permanently brain damaged or dead? Punching Zimmerman in the nose is one thing, but climbing onto him while he's on the floor and beating him is another thing. A lot of people are bringing up Martin's past because they're just calling out the liberal media bias trying to paint Martin as some perfect and blameless golden martyr model citizen, who's face is supposed to show that racism is alive and well while portraying the other guy as some strange man with an obsession for blacks. When Martin is just a human who had his share of problems including a criminal record (stealing jewelry anyone?). The pro "lynch him" crowd think that Zimmerman's background is relevant and that Martin's criminal record is a racist smear. Let's be fair and say that they are both relevant, I agree using Facebook photos as evidence is lame but that is another argument on it's own.

It seems that the media is playing everyone against eachother, MSNBC is hyping up the one side of the story while Fox News is trying to rile people up on the other side of the story, but what happened during that one minute where everything went down so far has been speculation and is highly debatable both ways, it’s what happened in this one minute that would determine how this case turns out... and until then I’ll support the fact that Martin needs justice by supporting a fair trial.

NObama's speech did help fuel the fire because all it did was create more racial tension, and lets be honest the only reason Zimmerman was painted as a white guy was to incite black people against white people, while Jesse Sharpton makes some bullshit conclusion that "blacks are under attack by whites", but now why isn't Obama telling the people who looted stores to calm down, or telling people like the Black Panthers who are encouraging vigilante justice or that prick that tweets a home address out to everybody or this rap band that sang about starting a race war in Martin’s name, or the people that printed the "Pussy ass cracker" shirt, that they are all out of line and this is not how they should react to an isolated event? Where is Mr Obama Bin “Tone down the Rhetoric and have a more Civil Discourse” Laden now? This is a supposed president and this is clearly spiraling out of control, couldn't he be responsible and have the decency to tell people on the other side to behave themselves and reason with them before civil unrest gets worse and more damage is done for race relations and more people get hurt or killed or is this too much to ask for? I think that Obama is using this incident to target the "Stand Your Ground" law though, either that or he's just being a racist democrat.

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Darkman 4 said:

the "good ones" (which is a racist belief in itself)


I'd love an explanation of how that qualifies as racism. Believing that there are "good" and "bad" (insert racial affiliation) is essentially saying that oft-used ethnic stereotypes cannot apply to all members of said race. Racism is rooted in prejudice, meaning to prejudge. So if I believe that I am unable to prejudge someone based on their skin-color or ethnicity, and that I therefore cannot apply stereotypes to that person(because they might well be "one of the good ones"), it's tough for me to be racist towards them.

I do believe in good and bad people. I believe that there are shitty white people and great white people, asshole black people and awesome black people, lousy jews and wonderful jews, etc. I find examples of all of the above just about every day. It has nothing to do with what ethnicity box they check on their W2 form. There are those who would say that most people suck regardless of who their ancestors were or country they hail from. You go through life hoping to befriend a few people who you feel don't suck, and if you can do this then you're doing okay in my book.

But then there's the "popular racial culture" in a given area, which can influence the perceptions, ideas, and actions of many members of a certain race, and that's a whole different topic.

Darkman 4 said:

If the Sanford PD had already detained Zimmerman and not continue to drag their feet regarding even a potential arrest, than this would not have happened.


You give Mr. Lee and the other race hustlers WAY too much credit. I agree that the cops dropped the ball in some ways, including certain aspects of police procedure, but thinking that if they had just done everything perfectly then nobody would be freaking out is horribly naive.

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DeathevokatioN said:

When Martin is just a human who had his share of problems including a criminal record (stealing jewelry anyone?). The pro "lynch him" crowd think that Zimmerman's background is relevant and that Martin's criminal record is a racist smear. Let's be fair and say that they are both relevant

If martin was in fact a stone cold marijuana hustling, jewel thief, what relevance to this case would any of that have?

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Merah is but a pretext. That law was never about terrorism. If there hadn't been a convenient terrorist, it would have been about piracy or child porn or whatever.

The law is entirely about censorship, control, and the establishing of a dictatorship in France.

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Vordakk said:

I'd love an explanation of how that qualifies as racism. Believing that there are "good" and "bad" (insert racial affiliation) is essentially saying that oft-used ethnic stereotypes cannot apply to all members of said race. Racism is rooted in prejudice, meaning to prejudge. So if I believe that I am unable to prejudge someone based on their skin-color or ethnicity, and that I therefore cannot apply stereotypes to that person(because they might well be "one of the good ones"), it's tough for me to be racist towards them.

I do believe in good and bad people. I believe that there are shitty white people and great white people, asshole black people and awesome black people, lousy jews and wonderful jews, etc. I find examples of all of the above just about every day. It has nothing to do with what ethnicity box they check on their W2 form. There are those who would say that most people suck regardless of who their ancestors were or country they hail from. You go through life hoping to befriend a few people who you feel don't suck, and if you can do this then you're doing okay in my book.

But then there's the "popular racial culture" in a given area, which can influence the perceptions, ideas, and actions of many members of a certain race, and that's a whole different topic.



You give Mr. Lee and the other race hustlers WAY too much credit. I agree that the cops dropped the ball in some ways, including certain aspects of police procedure, but thinking that if they had just done everything perfectly then nobody would be freaking out is horribly naive.


"The good ones" is racist in that it divides blacks into "good" blacks that act like white people, while "bad" blacks look scary, listen to rap music, and commit crimes. If you can't see that it's racist to assume that "good" blacks should act like white people then I don't know what to say.

I know you're going to say "well that's not what i consider the good ones! ur the real racist!!!!". I don't give a shit. Dividing whole segments of the black population into "good" or "bad" is racist in itself because you're assuming that chunks of the population will always behave in a certain way that you disapprove of, while the other chunk will behave "better". However, you've never met every black person out there and don't know their motivations nor goals, so you're basically stereotyping huge chunks of the population. This is not a good idea and leads to racist thinking.

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Gez said:

Merah is but a pretext. That law was never about terrorism. If there hadn't been a convenient terrorist, it would have been about piracy or child porn or whatever.

The law is entirely about censorship, control, and the establishing of a dictatorship in France.

The same shit is happening in Canada under the child porn banner.

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Quast said:

If martin was in fact a stone cold marijuana hustling, jewel thief, what relevance to this case would any of that have?

lol.

I don't care if someone takes drugs, I feel that people should be free to pursue their happiness as long as they don't harm others.

But the fact that he stole jewelry means that he doesn't care if he harms other people, plain and simple. And alongside his connections to gang culture, a twitter comment that talked about an incident where Martin "swung on a busdriver" and the way that Martin continuously alluded to violence in his Twitter updates, it takes away from the misleading and sick liberal media propaganda that is exploiting his death and forced down everyone's throats an excuse to spread hate. And as insensitive as it may sound; it will refute the argument that the prosecution case were using (before dirt started leaking out) that Martin never did anything "wrong" in his entire life, that was getting spewed out to impose the notion that Martin attacking Zimmerman would be completely "out of character".

Ultimately this evidence ofcourse will not win the case alone ofcourse. But now that it has been leaked it is known that there are smears on both sides and that no candidate is "perfect", the trial can focus on the incident that Zimmerman is being trialed for.

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Darkman 4 said:

I know you're going to say "well that's not what i consider the good ones! ur the real racist!!!!". I don't give a shit. Dividing whole segments of the black population into "good" or "bad" is racist in itself because you're assuming that chunks of the population will always behave in a certain way that you disapprove of, while the other chunk will behave "better". However, you've never met every black person out there and don't know their motivations nor goals, so you're basically stereotyping huge chunks of the population. This is not a good idea and leads to racist thinking.


^Another poster with weak reading comprehension skills attempts to label me as racist. I'm not just dividing segments of the "black population" into "good" or "bad", I'm dividing segments of the ENTIRE population into "good" and "bad". As for your point about "good" blacks behaving like whites, this is a common error in reasoning which many racist American black people fall prey to, and the media encourages them to continue in that mindset. Look at how many American blacks treat people like Allen West, Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, or any other conservative black person out there. They call them "oreo", "tools of the white folk", or "Uncle Tom", and say that they're acting "white" and are race traitors. THAT sounds a bit racist to me. If you can't understand that, perhaps you'd do well to critically analyze the propaganda your television is feeding you.

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Vordakk said:

I'd love an explanation of how that qualifies as racism. Believing that there are "good" and "bad" (insert racial affiliation) is essentially saying that oft-used ethnic stereotypes cannot apply to all members of said race.

It's tough to call it out as racist, but don't be foolish and think 'one of the good ones' is meant as a term of endearment. It implies that 'good ones' are the few and that the many are not 'good'.

It denigrates a group as a whole (even if you think you are applying it to the entire human race) at the expense of elevating a few for no real reason other than to say, 'yeah you're ok, but the rest of ya'll suck'. It's a cheap way to be an asshole and not really sound like it.

Let me put it this way, because it can be applied to non-racial issues as well. In light of the recent incident in afghanistan, would you honestly say to the face of someone in the military that they are 'one of the good ones'? As opposed to maybe pointing out the soldier that did what he did and saying 'he's one of the bad ones'?

Do you see the difference?

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Ok, well if believing that there are but a few people out of every hundred or so that rise to a level I'd consider "good" makes me an asshole, then I'm an asshole.

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Maes said:

Translate this, it's really worth it.

Immigrant bit and severed the finger of a police officer!.

Bit alien police and cut off his finger

An incredible and tragic incident also happened last night in the center of Piraeus, when under police control, immigrant police attacked and bitten the hand so that the cut finger.

The unprecedented incident occurred shortly after 20.00 on the corner of Asclepius and Korca and while the police were making regular checks.

Blooded police officer transferred to CAT where doctors struggle for the successful bonding of the finger.

The foreigner was arrested and detained.


Greek police officers are from tau ceti 5 I guess.

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Wow, that's the worst machine translation from Greek I've ever saw :-o Even a word-by-word translation would've looked much closer to English, this one looks like it has been first translated to Chinese. What service did you use?

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Retog said:

Your right. The people who create the racist sites should be thrown in prison, not the people who visit the site. I might decide to visit a racist site to troll it, even though i'm not a racist I would still be prosecuted under that law.

Really?

First they came for the racists...

When did having a controversial opinion, even if it is an abhorrent one, become an acceptable reason to jail someone? It's this kind of attitude that is fueling the Western spiral into totalitarianism.

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Quasar said:

Really?

First they came for the racists...

When did having a controversial opinion, even if it is an abhorrent one, become an acceptable reason to jail someone? It's this kind of attitude that is fueling the Western spiral into totalitarianism.


You win the thread.

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