Technician Posted April 9, 2012 Trolling Could Get You 25 Years in Jail in Arizona It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use a ANY ELECTRONIC OR DIGITAL DEVICE and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.That's the real kicker. Oh, someone in a the comments section may have shed some light on the people behind this bill.iexiak said:I want it put on record that I feel threatened when anyone mentions church, god(s), and religions in general. I do not want my child exposed to such things when he visits the internet. 0 Share this post Link to post
Megalyth Posted April 9, 2012 The article said:Opponents of the bill argue that the wording is overly broad...No surprise there. Welcome to the United States of Earth. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted April 9, 2012 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Is this more election year madness from the Republicans or does Arizona breed its own distinct sub-species of asshat legislator? 0 Share this post Link to post
Quast Posted April 9, 2012 GreyGhost said:or does Arizona breed its own distinct sub-species of asshat legislator? This. Can also be applied to florida or anywhere else rich old white people migrate. 0 Share this post Link to post
gggmork Posted April 9, 2012 Luckily the real trolls are safe behind the camouflage of their positions of authority. Its a race to the bottom in the great china-america merger. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bucket Posted April 9, 2012 Maybe someone ought to tell them that any troll worth his salt doesn't directly harrass or bully people online - rather he subversively incites that kind of behavior. 0 Share this post Link to post
Cupboard Posted April 9, 2012 It's no secret US congress has been prime trollbait since the 2010 midterm elections. 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted April 9, 2012 So now these forms: have a legal basis? Niiiice (with a Borat accent) 0 Share this post Link to post
DoomUK Posted April 9, 2012 annoy or offend So posting anything comes with potential legal ramifications. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted April 9, 2012 DoomUK said:So posting anything comes with potential legal ramifications. Or use excessive profanity, apparently. I can see America attempting to make the internet rated G, I really can. 0 Share this post Link to post
The Lag Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) . Edited June 17, 2023 by The Lag 0 Share this post Link to post
Coopersville Posted April 9, 2012 The mental image of jails being overcrowded with pot smokers and now 4chan users amuses me. In a way, some of us will finally be able to live our /v/ Mansion fantasy. 0 Share this post Link to post
DeathevokatioN Posted April 9, 2012 wow, this is the most ridiculous law ever... it needs to pass! 0 Share this post Link to post
TimeOfDeath Posted April 9, 2012 haters gonna hate... haters got a cell mate... 0 Share this post Link to post
Clonehunter Posted April 10, 2012 Now 4channers can experience true butthurt with the help of Big Bubba. 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted April 10, 2012 Opponents of the bill argue that the wording is overly broad and could easily be interpreted to include not just one-on-one communications but public forums like 4Chan, Reddit, and anywhere else that allows commenting. You thought the banhammer was bad? Try handcuffs. I would say the wording of the bill could easily be interpreted to include non-internet related electronic media, such as TV and radio. Heck, non-electronic media that was created via an electronic device (e.g. newspapers and magazines) could be included. In fact, if Stephen Hawking were ever to visit Arizona, he should be very careful what he says... If this law does get passed, I would suggest people pay close attention to anything members the Arizona Legislature who support it say, and make sure they get a taste of their own medicine. 0 Share this post Link to post
Snakes Posted April 10, 2012 I don't understand why you faggots don't like this bill! 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted April 10, 2012 Snakes said:I don't understand why you faggots don't like this bill! Well played, sir, well played. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted April 10, 2012 Snakes said:I don't understand why you faggots don't like this bill! It'll force some of us to find new ways to entertain ourselves. BTW - I'm deeply offended by your insinuation that I look like a bundle of sticks! 0 Share this post Link to post
Dco16 Posted April 10, 2012 I'm pretty sure it's legal in Arizona to just shoot someone who pisses you off on the internet. This new law saves lives. 0 Share this post Link to post
Justince Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) r_init: getpostnumberforname: post not found! Edited July 28, 2017 by Justince 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted April 10, 2012 Sigh... What is it with lawmakers that they always manage to bury good intent in such bad language that doesn't mean anything concrete? To be clear: I have no problems with anti-harassment laws and I can clearly see what they wanted here - but I have serious issues with the word soup that came out at the end after the legal zombies had their say. 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted April 10, 2012 So it's basically a failure bill (there's no way it will get passed in this form -- unlike the dreaded online copyright bills, this one has nothing to do with "no.1" problems of the world (piracy/terrorism/I forgot), but it assaults the free speech directly). Indeed, sigh. 0 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted April 11, 2012 People don't understand that being a jerk is a first ammendment right. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted April 11, 2012 geo said:People don't understand that being a jerk is a first ammendment right. It's all this "internet bullying" horseshit that has gotten people so sensitive to the net. I don't know, words like terrorism, or pedophilia, or bullying make people hand over obvious liberties without even a neuron firing. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted April 11, 2012 Ok, people, what makes you think you have a right to verbally harass others. Such a law may be news to you Americans but here in Germany people have already been convicted because they abused the internet to inflict harm on others. It just so happened a few weeks ago. There was a child murder here in Germany. The police arrested someone. Some jerk on the internet 'organized' a rally to 'punish' the one being arrested. And then: The arrested person was proven innocent. So would you want to let that jerk go free or being punished for the chaos he caused? From what I read here you are fine with such an asshole trying to hurt someone just 'because it's fun'. I am sick and tired of this attitude you show here. There have to be limits to free speech - and they have to precisely there where they cross the boundary between stating an opinion and attacking others personally with the intent to cause harm. (Disclaimer: This doesn't mean that I approve of the law as written. In fact I don't even understand what it's supposed to mean. The language is so atrociously convoluted that it probably means nothing and everything at the same time...) 0 Share this post Link to post
Wagi Posted April 11, 2012 Graf Zahl said:It just so happened a few weeks ago. There was a child murder here in Germany. The police arrested someone. Some jerk on the internet 'organized' a rally to 'punish' the one being arrested. And then: The arrested person was proven innocent. So would you want to let that jerk go free or being punished for the chaos he caused? From what I read here you are fine with such an asshole trying to hurt someone just 'because it's fun'. That falls under the category of "Screaming "Fire!" in a movie theater when there is no fire". Those comments call actual harm. There are already laws against that in America. What they're trying to make illegal here is things like saying "You're a fucking idiot." over Facebook. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted April 11, 2012 Graf Zahl said:Loads of horseshit1) It's already a crime to make direct threats over any medium. 2) If enforcement of this bill is strict, I can be prosecuted by just calling you a simple-brained dickhead. You shouldn't have the right to not be offended. And yeah, "intent to cause harm" just becasue someone calls you an idiot. Don't assume I will make physical attacks with my verbal observations. 3) Just becasue an incident was prevented by liberty restricting laws, that doesn't mean I want to sacrifice said liberties for a false sense of security. Security so rare, it's almost happenstance anyway. 0 Share this post Link to post