Taliban shoot woman guilty of Adultery 9 times in public execution.

[neubejiita]

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/08/world/asia/afghanistan-public-execution/index.html

Taliban shoot woman guilty of Adultery 9 times in public execution.

WTF Islam? Send in the B2s loaded with Nukes, I declare exterminatus in the name of the Emperor, our undying Lord.

[Krispy]

They don't even realize that what they do is bassackwards, so what's the point of trying to get them to change? I'll second that nuking.

[alexz721]

Well, at least they killed the two guys responsible for causing the execution.

[Krispy]

Now someone needs to kill the guys who killed the executioners, and so on. But a nuke would destroy the vicious cycle.

[GreyGhost]

neubejiita said:

Taliban shoot woman guilty of Adultery 9 times in public execution.

A nine-time adulterer, she has been busy.

Send in the B2s loaded with Nukes, I declare exterminatus in the name of the Emperor, our undying Lord.

I'd suggest we first pull out the occupation forces, embedded journalists, building & construction contractors, mercenary armies and whoever we're planning to install as President once the background radiation levels have dropped to an acceptable level.

[Technician]

Religion of peace.

neubejiita said:

Send in the B2s loaded with Nukes

Can we send in a different bad?

[Mr. T]

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead and it's "WTF Islam"?

ok

[printz]

Idiotic posts in this thread.

[Vordakk]

Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

[hex11]

Let 'em kill each other in peace.

[GreyGhost]

Vordakk said:

Kill 'em all, let Allah sort 'em out.

FTFY

[printz]

hex11 said:

Let 'em kill each other in peace.

Doesn't stoning for similar reasons already usually happen in the more stable Saudi Arabia? Or are those rumours?

[Technician]

hex11 said:

Let 'em kill each other in peace.

Agreed.

[Maes]

Krispy said:

But a nuke would destroy the vicious cycle.

With Islam being practically the second largest -if not THE largest- religion in the world? That would take an awful lot of nukes. Let along that not all Islamic nations are nuke-less (Pakistan...)

[Aliotroph?]

Not only are all the standard things wrong with this, but they're wasting bullets. Maybe it's good for us and some of their victims if they waste bullets.

[Fulgrim]

printz said:

Doesn't stoning for similar reasons already usually happen in the more stable Saudi Arabia? Or are those rumours?

In a lot of respects Saudi Arabia is just as bad as any other Middle Eastern country in all most every way. Much like Iraq back in the day NATO (especially the US) tend to ignore the actions of the government and the people.

[Quast]

Maes said:

With Islam being practically the second largest -if not THE largest- religion in the world? That would take an awful lot of nukes. Let along that not all Islamic nations are nuke-less (Pakistan...)

It's not the largest. Islam only slightly outnumbers roman catholics, let alone christianity as a whole.

[printz]

Quast said:

It's not the largest. Islam only slightly outnumbers roman catholics, let alone christianity as a whole.

So there are more muslims than catholics? I'm glad.

[PRIMEVAL]

printz said:

Doesn't stoning for similar reasons already usually happen in the more stable Saudi Arabia? Or are those rumours?

Never thought they were much into pot.


...har har

[schwerpunk]

When is Islam going to have their equivalent of a Protestant reformation, already? Bring on the moderates.

Doesn't solve everything, but it tends to cut down on the killin'.

[printz]

If this is the islamist middle ages, then we'll die before it reforms :P

[Krispy]

Mr. T said:

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead and it's "WTF Islam"?

ok

Different issue entirely.

[Quasar]

schwerpunk said:

When is Islam going to have their equivalent of a Protestant reformation, already? Bring on the moderates.

Doesn't solve everything, but it tends to cut down on the killin'.

Considering the radicalization of American Protestantism, I'm not so sure.

In fact, from the very beginning, many protestant sects were concerned about the Catholic church not being *strict* or *genuine* enough, and were concerned with returning their religion to its roots - a hallmark of radicals.

[Coopersville]

Becoming a born again Muslim doesn't sound so fun.

[Maes]

Islam went through the inverse process as Christianity, and its more moderate components lost the fight centuries ago -the Ottoman empire was pretty much the final nail in that coffin.

[dew]

Maes said:

Islam went through the inverse process as Christianity, and its more moderate components lost the fight centuries ago -the Ottoman empire was pretty much the final nail in that coffin.

that's a complete, utter nonsense.

[Maes]

dew said:

that's a complete, utter nonsense.

What part of it, exactly? The Ottoman empire's official version of Islam was Sunni Islam, hardly the most hardcore, but also hardly the most moderate. It eventually led to the endemic problems that Islam carries to this day, already covered by Dan Diner in his book Lost in the Sacred: Why the Muslim World Stood Still. I'm just citing a few: viewing the Classic Arab language exclusively as an instrument for teaching Islam, delaying the introduction of typography well until the end of the 19th century, general scientific development arrest etc.

In some places (e.g. modern Turkey) they eventually managed to shed part of this cumbersome baggage, in others they are still trapped.

[Mr. T]

Krispy said:

Different issue entirely.

I just find it odd how people love to say OMG THAT'S HORRIBLE FUCK ISLAM without looking in the mirror first.

Coopersville said:

Becoming a born again Muslim doesn't sound so fun.

[GreyGhost]

Coopersville said:

Becoming a born again Muslim doesn't sound so fun.

It's still an improvement on being a born again Scientologist.

[myk]

Krispy said:
Different issue entirely.

Not necessarily, because highlighting every savage or coarse characteristic in a dominated culture at every ripe opportunity is a means to sweep aside its social needs, material interests and human nature to ensure it stays downtrodden and never sounds reasonable. Repeat "OMG look at what those Muslims are doing" over and over in the media and reduce them to children or devils that need us to correct them through political patronizing, observer missions, sanctions and military incursions.

The policy of Western leaders right now has little interest in bettering the social situation in the Middle East and Africa, which implies a greater degree of industrialization in the regions, at least compared to the interest it has in exploiting their mineral resources. Their social problems are useful for the West in maintaining its relationship of dominance.

Who are we Westerners to sit high on our horses over their behavior on a day to day level when we trample their society and culture economically and militarily?

It's similar to the treatment given to drug users. They are scapegoated because they become useful to finance a bigger police force (and turn democracy more into a police state) and because otherwise it would imply solidarity with people with issues rather than taking any human association like a means for profit. Picture also the depiction of indians in Westerns or in traditional history in the Americas, which as bandits and savages served as an excuse to make conquistadors, colonists, gold seekers, and pilgrims look like saints in comparison to excuse the lands they took and the people they exploited, killed or displaced to less fertile lands.

These events are the sad degradation of humanity and they are certainly not improved by a "civilized" man's calculated smirk of contempt coupled with a troglodyte's suggestion to "suppress the brutes".

(There was some earlier debate on this topic here.)

Maes said:
Dan Diner

The arguments of that neoconservative propagandist are more or less a "refined" example of what I'm talking about. He learned that technique from demonizing Nazism rather than examining its broader social causes.