(empty) Posted November 29, 2012 Since discussing the imagined intricacies of Doom's universe is seemingly okay around these parts, I'll share a headcanon of mine; specifically, the one in the title. Think about it: they're the only other pink, bipedal demons in the game, and their horns are near identical. It's possible they just naturally get taller and develop their fireball-throwing over time. Hell Knights are genetically engineered to be weaker, possibly by the Barons themselves so they have almost-as-effective grunts to do their fighting for them. Not sure where Spectres fit into this, though. (If this sounds too much like spergy nonsense, feel free to ignore this. I'm in a bit of an overthinking mood today.) 0 Share this post Link to post
40oz Posted November 29, 2012 you may have noticed that the Hell Baron's back is also the Demon's forehead 0 Share this post Link to post
DoomUK Posted November 29, 2012 Where do the baron's hooves come from? 0 Share this post Link to post
qoncept Posted November 29, 2012 DoomUK said:Where do the baron's hooves come from? I think it's obvious. They were cross-bred with cyberdemons. 0 Share this post Link to post
(empty) Posted November 29, 2012 40oz said:you may have noticed that the Hell Baron's back is also the Demon's forehead ..I hadn't, but that's odd.DoomUK said:Where do the baron's hooves come from? Lava gradually melts the flesh off their feet, revealing black bones that happen to look like hooves. Their toes are already a dark grey color. Alternatively, they get their feet cut off and have hooves transplanted on to get rid of the sensitivity.qoncept said:I think it's obvious. They were cross-bred with cyberdemons. I was thinking of Cyberdemons as just heavily augmented Barons. 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted November 29, 2012 By that logic, then imps become chaingunners by getting fatter and shaving off their horns, after all their skin tone is near identical...or the reverse: chaingunners slim down and reveal the hords that were underneath their layers of fat. Or..hmm...some chaingunners get SO fat by the hellish, hormone-laden, genetically modified food they eat, that they grown two pairs of extra aureolas and become mancubuses. And of course arachnotrons become spiderdemons. 0 Share this post Link to post
TwinBeast Posted November 29, 2012 I always thought Hell Knights become Barons when they get older, but their lives are so violent that not many become old. I think similar thing about Demons and Spectres. Spectres are older Demons. 0 Share this post Link to post
Pottus Posted November 30, 2012 And Caco's and Pain Elementals have a vagina on the back side. 0 Share this post Link to post
Phobus Posted November 30, 2012 This thread, like many before, just goes to show that Doom never had much thought put into it, as any attempt to rationalise it will always fall flat as aimless fanwank (fun though it can be to do so). 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted November 30, 2012 The Baron of Hell eats Demons for breakfast. 0 Share this post Link to post
Avoozl Posted November 30, 2012 I don't think the demons even age or eat really. 0 Share this post Link to post
DoomUK Posted November 30, 2012 Phobus said:This thread, like many before, just goes to show that Doom never had much thought put into it, as any attempt to rationalise it will always fall flat as aimless fanwank (fun though it can be to do so). Whether it was due to technological constraints or a care-free attitude about the details, or both, the way Doom lets me fill in certain blanks with my imagination is half of it's appeal. I always enjoy threads that theorise and postulate over insignificant things in the game. 0 Share this post Link to post
BaronOfStuff Posted November 30, 2012 I always used to wonder what Revenants were before being picked up, dusted off, wired with some combat gear and sent back into battle. Too tall to be humans (not to mention they have freakishly long arms), and not similar enough in shape to have been created from the remains of any other Hellspawn in the game. What the fuck are they then? 0 Share this post Link to post
amputechture32 Posted November 30, 2012 I was always of the impression that that imps used to be human zombies, based on their pain noise and whatnot. 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted November 30, 2012 BaronOfStuff said:Too tall to be humans (not to mention they have freakishly long arms), and not similar enough in shape to have been created from the remains of any other Hellspawn in the game. What the fuck are they then? I think they were originally created to be human-sized (their in-game height is much lower than what they appear, they can creep whenever the player can), but they must have been realized that further downscaling of their sprites would've just been a mess of pixels with little discernible detail, so they were left as "giants". Also justifies their painful attacks. 0 Share this post Link to post
Quasar Posted November 30, 2012 Maybe they are the cursed form of the Nephilim, giants said to have roamed the Earth before the biblical flood :P 0 Share this post Link to post
david_a Posted November 30, 2012 Aren't revenants fairly close in size to those skeleton dudes in Heretic? Maybe they're dead (double-dead?) versions of those that have been rotting in a pan-dimensional hell for a while :) 0 Share this post Link to post
purist Posted November 30, 2012 BaronOfStuff said:I always used to wonder what Revenants were before being picked up, dusted off, wired with some combat gear and sent back into battle.?[/i] Would make a good concept for a custom monster 0 Share this post Link to post
Tristan Posted November 30, 2012 BaronOfStuff said:I always used to wonder what Revenants were before being picked up, dusted off, wired with some combat gear and sent back into battle. The Arch-Vile perhaps? 0 Share this post Link to post
Scypek2 Posted November 30, 2012 amputechture32 said:I was always of the impression that that imps used to be human zombies, based on their pain noise and whatnot. ehm... all monsters except for pain elemental, arch-vile, icon of sin and commander keen have the same pain noise... 0 Share this post Link to post
Clonehunter Posted November 30, 2012 Avoozl said:I don't think the demons even age or eat really. Zombies eat. They eat meat. And the Demon too probably seeing it takes bites off of the Doomguy. 0 Share this post Link to post
Platinum Shell Posted December 1, 2012 Eris Falling said:The Arch-Vile perhaps? Always thought this. Their kind of melty, fall-apart death sort of leads to their lanky and creepy gait of movement as a revenant; the demon surgeons can only perform so well. 0 Share this post Link to post
myk Posted December 4, 2012 The DOOM Bible spoke of ranks of monsters as from an army. The demon and the baron of hell are among the first monsters drawn, so perhaps the similarities are intentional. Later, they may have felt more variety would ease their work, speeding up development, and the idea of infighting probably made them think more of tribes of different hellish creatures instead of types or variations of the same kind. 0 Share this post Link to post