Marnetmar Posted October 15, 2013 I'm sorry but this is just fucking disgraceful. This isn't a bunch of ideological kooks, this is genuine corruption right here. These assholes know what they're doing. People seriously need to start sharing this shit. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted October 15, 2013 So... How do we turn this around on Obama? 0 Share this post Link to post
DooMAD Posted October 15, 2013 The level of premeditation is scary. But the problem is, even if you played it from every media outlet in the country (which won't happen) they'll still hold all the cards. Scandal and corruption might be enough to wipe out an individual's political career, but not the whole party. 0 Share this post Link to post
AndrewB Posted October 15, 2013 I can't find the words to describe how petty and meaningless all these theatrics are. Wake me up when there's actually a meaningful shutdown. 0 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted October 15, 2013 So how does the Tea Party have any power? Does America owe them for throwing tea in Boston Harbor dressed as Indians? 0 Share this post Link to post
Quast Posted October 16, 2013 geo said:So how does the Tea Party have any power? They do and they don't. They have tons of public support which keeps them getting elected, but politically even many in the gop are beginning to revile them because they truly aren't much more than obstructionist pests. 0 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted October 16, 2013 Quast said:They do and they don't. They have tons of public support which keeps them getting elected, but politically even many in the gop are beginning to revile them because they truly aren't much more than obstructionist pests. They're elected? Tea Party seems to me like the troll vote. Like having a poll to feed kids healthy food, candy or shit. They will chose shit. 0 Share this post Link to post
Wagi Posted October 16, 2013 geo said:So how does the Tea Party have any power? Because in 2010 we wanted to Take Our Government Back (tm). The horrifying thing is that this decision has a snowballing effect. These anti-government candidates we elected have caused congress to effectively stop functioning, therefore increasing hatred toward the government. As a result, we'll likely send more of these destructive people into Washington next November. 0 Share this post Link to post
Marnetmar Posted October 16, 2013 geo said:So how does the Tea Party have any power? Gerrymandering. 0 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted October 16, 2013 Wagi said:Because in 2010 we wanted to Take Our Government Back (tm). The horrifying thing is that this decision has a snowballing effect. These anti-government candidates we elected have caused congress to effectively stop functioning, therefore increasing hatred toward the government. As a result, we'll likely send more of these destructive people into Washington next November. I think people have always not liked the government. Its just a business that we all exist in. Unless you want to teach your kids, protect your property and get clean water all yourself (which some people do). Most of the laws that exist are to protect the majority of people from a minority of idiocy. 0 Share this post Link to post
Kontra Kommando Posted October 16, 2013 Wagi said:Because in 2010 we wanted to Take Our Government Back (tm). The horrifying thing is that this decision has a snowballing effect. These anti-government candidates we elected have caused congress to effectively stop functioning, therefore increasing hatred toward the government. As a result, we'll likely send more of these destructive people into Washington next November. I don't know about that "According to the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll out this week, the GOP-Tea Party efforts to defund or delay Obamacare—the demand which directly led to the government shutdown—has brought about a seven point increase in popularity of the law...Finally, there is little question that the GOP is bearing the brunt of blame in the standoff over re-opening the government and the debate over the debt ceiling as 53 percent of the public now places the blame on Congressional Republicans compared to 31 percent who view President Obama as being the guilty party." http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/10/11/boomerang-poll-reveals-gops-government-shutdown-bolstered-obamacare-popularity-by-20/ 0 Share this post Link to post
Wagi Posted October 17, 2013 geo said:I think people have always not liked the government. People have always disliked the government, but not to the extent that people do now. I can't think of another point in history where Congress's approval rating has been as low as 5%. 0 Share this post Link to post
Waffenak Posted October 17, 2013 puppets acting in theatre of dullness 0 Share this post Link to post
AndrewB Posted October 17, 2013 Wagi said:People have always disliked the government, but not to the extent that people do now. I can't think of another point in history where Congress's approval rating has been as low as 5%. Their approval rating is low because the peons believe that the government isn't doing enough. This can hardly be described as "not liking the government". 0 Share this post Link to post