Heretic tree sprites?

[neubejiita]

Hello there. I am making a map for Heretic and I cannot find any suitable packs that give me tree and vegetation sprites. Can I use Slade to convert sprites from Doom or Hexen to use instead? And why does Heretic have no trees?

Anyway, any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

[Obsidian]

Why does Heretic have no trees? Huh.

Don't quote me on this, but I believe if you convert the graphics you want to PNG, copy them into the wad, copy the COLOPMAP and/or PLAYPAL and convert the PNGs to the palette you want you can dodge any palette raping that might occur. I think I found that in an old post by Essel, it'd take some time to dig up.

Also congrats on 666th post.

[GreyGhost]

neubejiita said:

Can I use Slade to convert sprites from Doom or Hexen to use instead?

Yes, and Doom trees appear to be slightly greener in Heretic.

[Tango]

yeah what Obsidian said. if you convert from a png to a doom graphic, or heretic graphic (same thing in Slade I think), it'll just use the wad in question's playpal (or another one you specify) and match colors as closely as possible. very handy :D

[Technician]

Obsidian said:

Why does Heretic have no trees? Huh.

<mind blown>

[ASD]

At least E2M6 has a giant tree shaped structure.

[Cupboard]

I guess the developer's rationale was E1: this is a ravaged city with all its resources destroyed, no trees. E2: you're entering the gates of hell, why would there be foliage here, no trees. E3: you're underwater. I never saw a tree underwater before, no trees. E4: Wow, we're still going strong after these monsters, apparently they don't need wood for fires to build all these clay and stone fortresses, no trees. E5: Yeah, you're in an alternate dimension, no trees are required to produce the oxygen that you breathe. E6: At one time we had a plan for this, but budget cuts severely constrained us, no trees.

[Egregor]

*wispers* Just replace your least desired decorations with trees from Hexen, but you didn't hear that from me.

[Clonehunter]

Heretic doesn't have trees? Wow, never noticed. I mean, Doom, set on Mars and Hell, has trees.

[neubejiita]

One more question, I have this DECORATE code to create a new tree with Hexen sprites, but I get an error that it has no frames.

actor Tre1 10247
{
  Height 40
  Radius 20
  +SOLID
  States
  {
  Spawn:
    TRE7 A 4
	Loop
  }
}

[Jeremy]

Clonehunter said:

Heretic doesn't have trees? Wow, never noticed. I mean, Doom, set on Mars and Hell, has trees.

When you think about it that way O_o *scrathes head*

[GreyGhost]

TheCupboard said:

E3: you're underwater. I never saw a tree underwater before, no trees.

I have. They're a common sight when you dam rivers for hydro-electric power schemes and a terrible spot to get your line snagged when fishing. Heh - for that matter, there's a project just getting underway to harvest flooded trees from some of Hydro Tasmania's lakes.

neubejiita said:

One more question, I have this DECORATE code to create a new tree with Hexen sprites, but I get an error that it has no frames.

Try using the following spawn state -

  Spawn:
    TRE7 A -1
    Stop

That should work, provided your tree sprite is named TRE7A0.

[neubejiita]

GreyGhost said:

I have. They're a common sight when you dam rivers for hydro-electric power schemes and a terrible spot to get your line snagged when fishing. Heh - for that matter, there's a project just getting underway to harvest flooded trees from some of Hydro Tasmania's lakes.

Try using the following spawn state -

  Spawn:
    TRE7 A -1
    Stop

That should work, provided your tree sprite is named TRE7A0.

That worked perfectly. I exported the graphics from Hexen as PNG and imported them into the wad and the pallette was converted perfectly. Thank you.

[printz]

Clonehunter said:

Heretic doesn't have trees? Wow, never noticed. I mean, Doom, set on Mars and Hell, has trees.

No, there are no damn trees on "Mars" or rather Phobos/Deimos. They were added for Inferno and they do look ridiculous, and apparently they were kept for Doom 2 as well.