Raymoohawk's sprite edits

frithiof said:

You are really going to hate the internet when you discover that 99% of it is comprised of porn.

Heh, no, I'm well aware of that fact and am not even remotely upset over its volume and prevalence. Also, I think it'd work more in other games, but a relatively straightforward and simple game about shooting demons in space doesn't seem like the right place in my opinion.

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Sodaholic said:

Heh, no, I'm well aware of that fact and am not even remotely upset over its volume and prevalence. Also, I think it'd work more in other games, but a relatively straightforward and simple game about shooting demons in space doesn't seem like the right place in my opinion.


I think there were female zombies/monsters in Dead Space...

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but deadspace is narrative driven, this game is not. i think its time to let this discussion go
instead have more shotgunguy!

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Excellent work !

I globally love FreeDoom, but hated the zombie sprite...
The new one is very good !

I also like that sexy trooper (imp)...

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raymoohawk said:

i think its time to let this discussion go

I agree. Can we move on please? It seems like we've reached a consensus on the imp sprites now.

raymoohawk said:

i was thinking of documenting the making of the sprites, would anyone be interested in that? maybe it could be used to promote freedoom or something

That sounds like a great idea! Maybe something like a timelapse recording of your desktop while you do the edits?

Kind of like this:

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yeah thats the thing i was thinking of, althoug im nowhere near as talented as the guy in that video.

a couple of questions, why is stallman the boss brain? can i edit him? id like to add some techie stuff to him so its not just the head in a stick, but that it actually looks like his controlling the icon of sin

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I think it'd be cool to see some kind of actual cybernetic brain hooked up to the final boss myself rather than some person.

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raymoohawk said:

a couple of questions, why is stallman the boss brain? can i edit him? id like to add some techie stuff to him so its not just the head in a stick, but that it actually looks like his controlling the icon of sin


B-b-but Stallman is an icon! An icon of GNU!

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i didnt consider that (althoug stallman isnt just some person). ill let you guys decide if you want me to give the brainboss a try, having something non joke might lead to mappers using it in different ways

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to frithiof, i didnt meant replacing stallman, just adding stuff to make it look like he wasnt just dead on a stick, but actually part of the creature

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It seems that RMS is never seen without his laptop, so maybe that's the only thing that's missing.

That said, it doesn't particularly matter what he looks like: it's only a hidden easter egg and not really intended to be seen by most players.

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His head in some kind of computer as the evil mastermind behind it all seems kind of cool. More logical and original than head on a stick.

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Well, has RMS ever confirmed that he is fine with *this* usage of his image in Freedoom? Does he even know about it?

To be honest, I'd be farily shocked to see an image of my severed head on a stick as the final "evil" boss in a computer game. I'd find that personally offending.

Plus, Freedoom isn't even using on of his licenses, so this reference to him is rather random.

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raymoohawk said:

yeah thats the thing i was thinking of, althoug im nowhere near as talented as the guy in that video.

a couple of questions, why is stallman the boss brain? can i edit him? id like to add some techie stuff to him so its not just the head in a stick, but that it actually looks like his controlling the icon of sin

Speaking of which, any objections/ideas around changing that GODAWFUL brain dead sound? The one with the jaws style muzak and mmehh eheeehe eheh on top of it?
I'm trying to come up with something decent but any thoughts?

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so how different is the freedoom license from the gpl? (honest question)

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thanks for clarifying
so say freedoom is finished and i grab a copy and mod it, can i then relicense my mod under the gpl or any other license?

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raymoohawk said:

thanks for clarifying
so say freedoom is finished and i grab a copy and mod it, can i then relicense my mod under the gpl or any other license?

No, only the copyright holder can change the license. But you can do nearly anything else with your copy without the need to change the license at all, the BSD license is very liberal.

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That image is misleading: You cannot remove the BSD license nor change its terms (at least not without contacting the copyright holder), but you CAN add additional terms of your own. This is somewhat common, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows both include code developed for BSD but they also have their own EULAs on top of it.

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Nice sprites!
And about the Stallman, i agree with the idea of giving him tech and other things to him so he doesn't look like a stick with head, so i think that would be very beneficial, as that would improve the quality of FreeDoom's art and graphics.

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Feel free to improve the Stallman sprite if you wish, but he shouldn't be considered a priority. Like fraggle said, he's meant to be an easter egg (exactly like John Romero's head in Doom II). Are there any PWADs that depend on exposing the boss brain out in the open? It's a very weak/easy thing to kill... would be odd.

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I just had an interesting thought about the Imp replacement you have been working on. Raymoohawk has created 2 different sprite replacements for the Imp, one has arms and the other has tentacles. How about using the one with arms to replace the current Imp and using the one with tentacles to replace the current Orb monster/ Cacodemon. It brings the Scrag (flying snake monster from Quake 1) to mind. Anyways, it's just a thought.

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More work on SGunner, good and about Voltcom9's post, the imp with tentacles would not fit well the cacodemon as the caco is a flying monster, so it would require some editing to make it suitable for flying.

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I like the current FreeCaco, it just need some polishing (IMHO).

But my favourite FreeDoom monster is the Pain Elemental, a brilliant idea ! Don't change it (except if the Lost Soul is modified).

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