Why are old Ford trucks so shitty?

[Holering]

Why are old Ford trucks so shitty?

It's like, I want to get an old one but everyone tells me not to. And I can't get one now because I don't have money. Plus I can only get what others suggest in my situation.

[Bucket]

It's inadvisable to buy anything American-made between 1980 and 2005.

[Mr. Freeze]

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[Holering]

Bucket said:

It's inadvisable to buy anything American-made between 1980 and 2005.

Were they any better during 1960s?

[Quast]

Bucket said:

It's inadvisable to buy anything American-made between 1980 and 2005.

I will disagree slightly in saying I've known a number of mid to late 90s early 00 grand cherokees still chuggin along with 400k+ original miles.

[geo]

My past 4 cars have been Ford. Its not just trucks.

When one thing goes wrong, it'll all go wrong.

Not just that, but all of the parts are connected in some fashion. To get to one thing, gotta take it all apart.

[gggmork]

Think of all the freeways, all the parking lots packed with cars, multiple cars per each home. Each of these is a node in a giant illegitimate force backed theft network. The government sells you registration stickers made in china at a 2000% markup. You don't have the human right of travel without their permission. Try not paying and they'll triple the fee, making the total larger after a couple years than if you paid the whole time. Car insurance is forced, why isn't meteor insurance force or getting punched in the face insurance? Because its all fascist. How about I'm a farmer that sells milk and everyone is just fucking forced to buy it, I could charge way way way more than its worth just like they do. Geico has these shit commercials with this whore that seriously takes the propaganda angle of having all these physical packages, like boxes on shelves representing the insurance. You aren't actually buying anything other than funding the killing of trees as they staple packages of paper together and send them to you every month. You pay for the death of trees whether you want to or not. You have to buy smog checks, also with an enormous non free market markup since you have to buy it. And you have to get one again and again at a rate 10x faster than needed. You have the street sweeper parking ticket scam nobody voluntarily pays for since government "owns" the streets they neither built nor paid for. You have DM shit V where petty tyrant rent a cops glare at you in line for 3 hours. This is probably why some people choose to drive killdozers instead of cars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbG9i1oGPA
And then the war on "curb stoners", people trying to sell their car like they would sell any other damn thing as they should be able to, trying to bypass the stupid beaurocracy, not to mention the fraud that they only let you sell like 6 cars a year without a "permit", by title jumping (flipping the car without signing the shit eating title). The original car buyer paid 10% sales tax on it, already illegitimate theft. The SECOND buyer of the used car has to pay tax AGAIN. So does the 3rd/4th/5th/etc owner. You take 10% every time, eventually the government owns MORE than the worth of the entire car just through that fraud, not to mention all the others.

[Doomkid]

Bucket said:

It's inadvisable to buy anything American-made between 1980 and 2005.

Weren't some of the SNES and Sega Genesis consoles made in America during that time, or were they all assembled in Japan and Mexico? I can't remember.

But other than that I totally agree.

[Nomad]

Only Ford I've had was a 96 Windstar minivan, and I have to say that it lasted a LONG time with minimal maintenance. Whoever said, though, that "when something goes wrong it all goes wrong" hit the nail on the head. I started having brake problems and suddenly all my sensors and some other parts decided to stop working at the same time. I was unable to pay for the repairs, and thus unable to renew registration, and it ended up being a miserable mess all around. I don't hate Fords for it, but I suspect if I had gotten the Subaru station wagon instead of the van when I bought my car, I would still have a car.

gggmork said:

If you can make any sense of this post, congratulations

QFT

[Doomkid]

There was a Ford Escort in my family for about 10-15 years. It was running fine all that time with only a little bit of typical maintenance, but the AC went in it and everything just started fucking up rapidly. Over the course of a month it went from running pretty much fine to smoking after 10 minutes of driving. I'll never forget my brother enraged at the fact he had to drive in the blarin sun with the heater on full blast just to vent the engine so he could get home.

It got a lot of mileage, but just like Nomad, one thing fucked up, and suddenly the whole car went with it. It was a 92 model, I think this was the early wave of building cars with an 'expiration date', because as soon as it hit it, there was no coming back.

[kb1]

Holering said:

Why are old Ford trucks so shitty?

It's like, I want to get an old one but everyone tells me not to. And I can't get one now because I don't have money. Plus I can only get what others suggest in my situation.

Early 70's are the way to go.

[Waffenak]

I should also buy old car from time before microchips were used in cars in case of emp attack so I have working car. Neighbors prius freezes on its tracks when that happens

[Aliotroph?]

How often do you suffer EMP attacks? Or do you play an RTS game where the Prius plays a prominent role?

Ford got into the game by selling cheap cars. Then they sold cheap tractors that killed a lot of farmers. They still sell cheap cars. There's a reason the Ford Taurus spent many years as the best-selling car, and it's not quality. (I realize this is probably not true of countries that are not part of North America.)

I don't own a car, but based on the cars my friends and family drive, the most reliable ones seem to be Japanese or German. A cute Ford Focus isn't very good if the sensors keep failing.

My fellow Albertans all swear by Dodge trucks. They don't seem quite as reliable as Japanese trucks, but they're certainly bigger. Albertans are like imitation Texans, though, so they just want everything big and powerful.

[Ralphis]

Fix
Or
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[Waffenak]

Aliotroph? said:

How often do you suffer EMP attacks? Or do you play an RTS game where the Prius plays a prominent role?

No need to go full assburger over matter. Old cars without ecu/chips are quite cheap if you find the right one and have you ever heard idiom: better safe than sorry. If we have emp attack i can drive aroud without problems.

[Quasar]

Regardless of the past, Ford has been top ranked in quality for the past few years. I've had only one problem with my Mustang since 2011 so far. Very solidly built. Whereas the Chryslers my parents buy sound like rattle traps after a week or two because so much stuff is just barely put together.

[Maes]

Because they know they will end up like this anyway?

[Fulgrim]

Nomad said:

Only Ford I've had was a 96 Windstar minivan, and I have to say that it lasted a LONG time with minimal maintenance. Whoever said, though, that "when something goes wrong it all goes wrong" hit the nail on the head. I started having brake problems and suddenly all my sensors and some other parts decided to stop working at the same time. I was unable to pay for the repairs, and thus unable to renew registration, and it ended up being a miserable mess all around. I don't hate Fords for it, but I suspect if I had gotten the Subaru station wagon instead of the van when I bought my car, I would still have a car.

That's pretty much happened with my 94 Ford Ranger pickup. Mine started with the starter going out. Once that started it seemed like shortly after everything that could break did. I was half surprised the entire engine didn't fall out of the thing before I sold it to a junker.

[gggmork]

Sounds like all the parts have the same planned obsolescence

[Clonehunter]

We've had three Ford Econolines, a 98, 99, and a 2001, which have lasted us pretty much until last year, and even then the engines were just fine. There were some brake issues here and there, and the 99 had a transmission and power steering issue right before we sold it. We got replacement vans, but the only reason we got rid of the old ones now is because the bodies are falling apart. Otherwise they've worked great. We also have a 99 (?) Ranger and a large (2000 or 2001) Pickup truck that have also lasted for quite some time. The Ranger actually has been out of commission for some time, but that's because we're too lazy to replace the brake pads. The bigger truck also works fine, but the body is shit as we never played nicely with it.

The rest of you either get shitty trucks, or are trying out Ford's shitty cars and non-work stuff. ;)

[Ralphis]

I've had all 3 "american" trucks over the span of my life, and the best two trucks I've had have been a 1994 Dodge Dakota that still runs like a boss (and it is easy to work on) and a 1996 Ford Ranger that also ran great but I flipped it to pay for my Camaro.

The 4x4 trucks I've had, the 2002 GMC Sierra was fine but like all 90s/00s GMs, it had overheating issues caused by the previous owner letting the Dexcool antifreeze begin rotting everything out. Only had the 2012 Ram for a couple months but I liked it and never had a problem with it. Couldn't justify holding onto it after I didn't need it for work anymore.

[Coopersville]

Cus Detroit.

[myk]

Bucket said:
It's inadvisable to buy anything American-made between 1980 and 2005.

Generally, it's inadvisable to buy anything made after 1979.

My dad had an F250 Ranger double-cabin pickup made around 1981 and it lasted quite a long time. In fact, early this year or late last year he lent it to my brother and some crazy driver crashed against it from the side and it ended up hinged on the guard rail of the highway with a damaged chassis, so my dad sold it. I think to a mechanic who was interested in fixing it for himself. It did lose its 4x4 mechanism a few years ago, but bear in mind it's a truck that traveled with a camper loaded on it from New York to Buenos Aires and served years in a farm carrying loads of pigs and tons of grain. It can't have been that bad.

[Fulgrim]

Maes said:

Because they know they will end up like this anyway?

The sad part is that if you where to restore one of the 50's rust buckets on the top pic, it would run a better and have next to no mechanical issues when compared to a newer truck. Not to mention the fact that if you in a wreck with anything smaller then a semi or city buss, you more than likely will be able to drive away, unlike most new vehicles.

[joe-ilya]

Because they're old.

[pritch]

Holering said:

Why are old Ford trucks so shitty?

It's like, I want to get an old one but everyone tells me not to. And I can't get one now because I don't have money. Plus I can only get what others suggest in my situation.

Everything is built to a price.

With Ford, that price is generally on the low side.

You get what you pay for.

Even modern, European Ford cars have a nasty plastic feel to them. I considered a Mondeo Ghia X for a while but when I sat in it, it just felt cheap even though it was a near top end model.