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Is Corvus from Heretic in the RTCW intro?

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I've always wondered if the mage in the Return to Castle Wolfenstein intro was supposed to be Corvus from Heretic, besides for the cloak he's also holding a staff with a yellow stone attached just like Corvus's staff.

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I think it may be a reference at most, sort of an easter egg. Heretic and Wolfenstein don't share timelines to the best of my knowledge.

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Patrol1985 said:

I think it may be a reference at most, sort of an easter egg. Heretic and Wolfenstein don't share timelines to the best of my knowledge.

The beginning of the trailer happens 1000 years before the happenings of the actual RTCW game (943 AD x 1943 AD). It does look like a cross-game reference to me, like a cool touch to the story they've made. Corvus was there... But they don't say his name.

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Corvus isn't even from the same world as Wolfenstein.
Wolfenstein is on Earth.
Heretic is on Partoris.

people use the most tenuous similarities to draw connections where there are none.

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kristus said:

people use the most tenuous similarities to draw connections where there are none.

This is why geeks invested something called "headcanon."

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He also makes the same pain sound. Sadly I can almost see chanting flying carcasses and hear D'sparil maniacal laughter and all those cliches...

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kristus said:

Corvus isn't even from the same world as Wolfenstein.
Wolfenstein is on Earth.
Heretic is on Partoris.

people use the most tenuous similarities to draw connections where there are none.

If it's an actual reference and if RTCW creators have deliberately modeled the wizard after Corvus (which is, in my view, well possible) for whatever reason (perhaps just for the cool factor, or lack of another idea), it doesn't necessarily mean that the game stories are "canon" - but there's still a connection.

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God I fecking hated that intro. It had absolutely nothing to do with about 90% of the gameplay, story, objectives, or anything. All it did was open the door for the existence of occult/magical enemies. The intro could have just alluded to the occult and actually shown BJ and his fellow spy kicking serious Nazi ass, finding a clue about some Nazi experiments, kicking a little more ass, and then getting captured due to a fluke/betrayal/faulty OSA intelligence, anything, anything except some lumbering dickhead in metal plate armor fighting Merlin.

On top of that, it turned out to be a giant spoiler for who the final boss was. Seriously, why would they reveal that before you even learn how to shoot a Luger?

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Heretic takes place somewhere other than Earth, but the staff could be an Easter Egg. With that, I'd like to see another Heretic/HeXen game. Maybe one where Corvus bands with the HeXen heroes and they all go on an Ass-Kicking crusade together.

TheCupboard said:

On top of that, it turned out to be a giant spoiler for who the final boss was. Seriously, why would they reveal that before you even learn how to shoot a Luger?


Pssshshshshs.... FORESHADOWING!!

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Well actualy it indeed looks like a easter egg, but let's not forget that Corvus is a elf, while the one we saw in the intro is a mage and besides elfs are more powerful in terms of magic(i think) than humans.
And also a thing about Heinrich in the intro, while in the game he is a undead saxon prince, in real life he was the king of Germany.
You can take a look here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_the_Fowler

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AFIAK, the closest the Wolfenstein and Heretic universes have ever come to converging was the fact that the player collected Tomes of Power throughout Wolfenstein 2009:

http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Tome_of_Power

These were obviously modeled specifically after the Tomes found in Heretic, Hexen II and Heretic II, but I've always thought that was more of a reference to the fact that all those games were made by Raven (i.e. they were showing love for their own classics), rather than any implication that the games occupied the same universe.

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