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Rank the D1/D2 Tracks!

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Feel free to do a top 10 and bottom 10 or something like that if there are too many. Here's mine.

"Demons On The Prey" (E1M7, E2M5, E3M5, E4M8)
"Sign Of Evil" (E1M8, E3M4, E4M1)
"Dark Halls" (E1M3)
"Opening To Hell" (MAP30)
"Waltz Of The Demons" (E2M7, E3M7, E4M5)
"Shawn's Got The Shotgun" (MAP07, MAP19, MAP29)
"The Demons From Adrian's Pen" (E2M2)
"The Ultimate Challenge" (MAP32)
"I Sawed The Demons" (E2M1)
"Sinister" (E2M6, E4M7)
"Message For The Archvile" (MAP20, MAP26)
"Getting Too Tense" (MAP28)
"Evil Incarnate" (MAP31)
"The Imp's Song" (E1M2)
"The Dave D. Taylor Blues" (MAP08, MAP14, MAP22)
"Untitled (Mouth For War)" (E2M9, E3M1)
"They're Going To Get You" (E2M4, E4M6)
"Bye Bye American Pie" (MAP23)
"Waiting For Romero To Play" (MAP18, MAP27)
"Suspense" (E1M5, E4M4)
"At Doom's Gate" (E1M1)
"Hiding The Secrets" (E1M9, E3M9, E4M9)
"Kitchen Ace" (E1M4)
"Into Sandy's City" (MAP09)
"Nobody Told Me About id" (E2M8)
"Donna To The Rescue" (E3M2, E4M2)
"In The Dark" (MAP06, MAP12, MAP24)
"Countdown To Death" (MAP03, MAP21)
"Intermission from DOOM" (D1 intermission, E2M3)
"Adrian's Asleep" (MAP25)
"DOOM" (MAP05, MAP13)
"Deep Into The Code" (E3M3, E4M3)
"Facing The Spider" (E3M8)
"The Demon's Dead" (MAP10, MAP16)
"On The Hunt" (E1M6, E3M6)
"The Healer Stalks" (MAP02, MAP11, MAP17)
"Between Levels" (MAP04)
"Running From Evil" (MAP01, MAP15)

Stray Notes:

D1: "Waltz Of The Demons" is missed potential. I'd rate it much higher if it were more polished (those clashing lines don't sound good). (Forget it -- I don't actually mind. Shifted to its deserving spot.) "Nobody Told Me About id" 'should' be higher too, but the pan-shifting and other tomfoolery makes me dizzy. I listed only tracks that appear in levels, but I'd rate "Victory" and "Bunny", D1's ending tracks, very highly -- close to if not in the top 5 overall.

D2: The modal funkiness in "Between Levels" is cool, but unfortunately I don't like listening to the track. "The Dave D. Taylor Blues" would be even higher if the guitar delay effect were executed better.

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Too many to rank, so I'll just list top and bottom 5:

Top 5:
"Demons On The Prey" (E1M7, E2M5, E3M5, E4M8)
"DOOM" (MAP05, MAP13)
"Suspense" (E1M5, E4M4)
"Sign Of Evil" (E1M8, E3M4, E4M1)
"At Doom's Gate" (E1M1)


Bottom 5 (worst to least bad):
"Bye Bye American Pie" (MAP23)
"Intermission from DOOM" (D1 intermission, E2M3)
"Adrian's Asleep" (MAP25)
"The Healer Stalks" (MAP02, MAP11, MAP17)
"Message For The Archvile" (MAP20, MAP26)

Most annoying (because it's the default in most add-on levels):
"Running From Evil" (MAP01, MAP15)

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Graf Zahl said:

Most annoying (because it's the default in most add-on levels):
"Running From Evil" (MAP01, MAP15)

That's an important distinction to make. The track is easily among the top 3/5/whatever in the iwads, but people passionately hate on it, because other people don't use custom tracks in their myhouse.wad map01. It's not even "overused" in the Dead Simple way, it's just left there to fill in for the lazy and the incompetent. Perhaps there's extra negative association at work here too, because such maps tend to be bad.

I like Running From Evil. It has a memorable beat and a kickass long solo. My other faves tend to be the ominous slow tracks like Sign of Evil and Opening To Hell.

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Top 10 in no particular order:

Into Sandy's City
Sinister
At Doom's Gate
Demons On The Prey
Sign of Evil
Countdown To Death
Doom
The Demon's Dead
Waiting For Romero To Play
Getting Too Tense

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My top tracks:

Untitled (E3M1)
I Sawed the Demons
Nobody Told Me About id
They're Going to Get You
The Demons from Adrian's Pen
Between Levels
Into Sandy's City
Doom II Story Text
Waiting for Romero to Play

Honorable Mention to Sinister. Probably the only track that really scared me in Doom (along with its corresponding level, E2M6).

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favs:
E1M3
MAP23
E2M6
E1M8
MAP09
E3M3

I dunno, most of 'em are infected with the bloody twelve-bar blues, including some of these picks. Never thought Doom had a particularly strong soundtrack to be honest

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Top 5 from Doom :
"I Sawed The Demons".
"Donna to the Rescue".
"Untitled".
"Kitchen Ace (And Taking Names)".
"Hiding the Secrets".(go figure)

Doom 2 :
"Opening To Hell".
"Message For The Archvile".
"Between Levels".
"Into Sandy's City".
"The Healer Stalks".

I don't think there's a track in doom that I dislike but I think doom 2 could use some more.

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Pls refer to the songs by map slots, not by their names ffs. Who the hell knows the names. :(

My favorites are map02, map08, map18, map25, e2m4, e2m6 and e2m7. I consider them the ultimate IDMUS solutions to everything: they always fit.

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Favourite tracks
e1m4
e1m9
e1m1
e3m1
e1m8
e3m8
map23
map04
map06
e2m1
map02
map18
map29
map09

Tracks I dislike
e1m3
map20
map08

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I particularly like the song "Waltz Of The Demons". Perfect for a penultimate, dark maze-like level with many obscure areas.

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Doom 2:
Text/Endgame
Map09 (Into Sandy's City)
Map20 (Message For The Arch-Vile)

Doom 1:
E1M8 (Sign Of Evil)
E2M1 (I Sawed The Demon)
E4M2 (Donna To The Rescue)

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I don't like D_RUNNIN because of the guitar solo. The song is okay up until about the rock organ, which unfortunately is about 5 seconds into it, and the guitar solo is too grating for me. I feel the same way about map20s guitar noises toward the end, which sound really unorthodox to me in an otherwise great song.

I like the drum and bass songs like E1M2, MAP02, MAP06, and MAP25. I'd much rather see midi musicians in the doom community make more music in that sort of direction. Quiet and sneaky sounding, which sounds appropriate for when your searching for secrets or backtracking, etc.

Doom Episode 1s music is mostly pretty stale to me by now, save for D_E1M8.

I love Doom 1s scary hell music, like e2m2, e2m4, e2m6, and e2m7. Shame Doom 2 doesn't have much music like that, though I've recently had a newfound love for MAP03, MAP05, and MAP28.

Some other random faves are map07 (slayer drum solo :)), map23, map31, e3m2, e3m3, doom 1 intermission music, doom 2 text music, and d_bunny.

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Favorites:

D_E1M1
D_E1M2
D_E1M4
D_E1M6
D_E1M9
D_E2M1
D_E2M2
D_E2M4
D_DM2INT (Doom 2 intermission statistics)
D_READ_M (Doom 2 intermission story texts)
D_IN_CIT (MAP09)
D_DEAD (MAP10)

Least favorite:

D_E1M3
D_E3M1
D_E3M2
D_DM2TTL (Doom 2 title music)

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E1M5 (Suspense)
E1M6 (On The Hunt)
E1M8 (Sign Of Evil) (the OPL3 version)
E2M2 (The Demons From Adrian's Pen)
E2M6 (Sinister)
E2M7 (Waltz of the Demons)
MAP02 D_STALKS (The Healer Stalks)
MAP05 D_DOOM (DOOM)
MAP10 D_DEAD (The Demon's Dead)
MAP18 D_ROMERO (Waiting For Romero To Play)

MAP03 D_COUNTD (Countdown To Death) is the only track from the two games I don't like. The instrumentation and rhythm make it sound cartoonish.

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My favorites are alway shifting, currently it's;

--Doom Best Tracks--

e1m2: The Imps Song
e1m3: Dark Halls
e1m5: Suspense
e1m7: Demons on the Prey
e1m8: Sign of Evil
e2m2: The Demons From Adrians Pen
e2m4: They're Going to Get You
e2m6: Sinister
e2m7: Waltz of the Demons
e3m3: Deep Into the Code

--Doom Worst Tracks--

e1m4: Kitchen Ace (And Taking Names)
e1m6: On the Hunt
e1m9: Hiding the Secrets
e2m1: I Sawed the Demons
e2m3: Intermission From Doom
e2m8: Nobody Told Me About id
e3m8: Facing the Spider

--Doom II Best Tracks--

Map 05: Doom
Map 06: In the Dark
Map 07: Shawns Got the Shotgun
Map 10: The Demons Dead
Map 18: Waiting For Romero To Play
Map 25: Adrians Alseep
Map 28: Getting too Tense
Map 30: Opening to Hell

--Doom II Worst Tracks--

Map 01: Running From Evil
Map 02: The Healer Stalks
Map 03: Countdown to Death
Map 04: Between Levels
Map 08: The Dave D. Taylor Blues
Map 09: Into Sandy's City
Map 20: Message For the Archvile
Map 23: Bye Bye American Pie

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Can someone tell me why everyone seems to hate map23's music. I thought that it was awesome and one of my favourites. The song that it is based off is also brilliant.

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yakfak said:

I dunno, most of 'em are infected with the bloody twelve-bar blues, including some of these picks.

I know nothing about music theory, but why exactly is a 12 bar structure a bad thing?

driftyloon said:

Can someone tell me why everyone seems to hate map23's music. I thought that it was awesome and one of my favourites. The song that it is based off is also brilliant.

I dunno, I like it. Not my favorite, but it's good, nevertheless.

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driftyloon said:

Can someone tell me why everyone seems to hate map23's music. I thought that it was awesome and one of my favourites. The song that it is based off is also brilliant.


The whistling part seems a little out of place. It's not quite as fitting as it is in map06. I like it a lot though. I mentioned it in my post.

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Doominator2 said:

2.)Intermission

Which of the 3 ones? (D1 statistics screen / D2 statistics screen / D2 story text screen)

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scifista42 said:

Which of the 3 ones? (D1 statistics screen / D2 statistics screen / D2 story text screen)

All of them I guess since their all equal in my opinion.

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driftyloon said:

Can someone tell me why everyone seems to hate map23's music. I thought that it was awesome and one of my favourites. The song that it is based off is also brilliant.

It's too monotonous/repetitive and belongs in a joke level, like Barrels o' fun. Don't put it in a long painful map, please. When you make your megawad, try not to stop with new music before MAP23.

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I can't think of bad songs, they are all good in some way. Most favorite are:
E1M8: Sign of Evil.
E2M4: They're Going to Get You.
MAP28: Getting Too Tense.
MAP30: Opening to Hell.

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my favorites are Donna to the Rescue (E3M2), Sign of Evil (E1M8), and Hiding the Secrets (E1M9). I don't really like most of the Doom 2 tracks except maybe Shawn's Got the Shotgun (MAP07).

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DOOM Favorites (Top 5 - No Order):
E1M6, E1M8, E2M4, E3M1
Least Favorites:
E1M9,E2M2, E2M8

DOOM 2 Favorites:
Map04, Map10, Map 18, Map28, Map30

Least Favorites:
Map01, Map02, Map03, Map07, Map12, Map25

Notes:
E2M8 is actually a very good track for the Tower Of Babel. But in any other level, it sucks.
I play a lot more DOOM 2 than DOOM.

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Favourites

E1M2
E1M3
E1M7
E1M8
E2M8
MAP03
MAP07
MAP30
MAP32

Least favourites

E1M9
E3M8
MAP04

The others go inbetween

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40oz said:

I don't like D_RUNNIN because of the guitar solo. The song is okay up until about the rock organ, which unfortunately is about 5 seconds into it, and the guitar solo is too grating for me. I feel the same way about map20s guitar noises toward the end, which sound really unorthodox to me in an otherwise great song.

I like the drum and bass songs like E1M2, MAP02, MAP06, and MAP25. I'd much rather see midi musicians in the doom community make more music in that sort of direction. Quiet and sneaky sounding, which sounds appropriate for when your searching for secrets or backtracking, etc.

Doom Episode 1s music is mostly pretty stale to me by now, save for D_E1M8.

I love Doom 1s scary hell music, like e2m2, e2m4, e2m6, and e2m7. Shame Doom 2 doesn't have much music like that, though I've recently had a newfound love for MAP03, MAP05, and MAP28.

Some other random faves are map07 (slayer drum solo :)), map23, map31, e3m2, e3m3, doom 1 intermission music, doom 2 text music, and d_bunny.


i think map18/map27 and map30 are scary hell songs as well.

map 27's song reminds me of being near the end of it all, being far away from home and family.
map 28 reminds me of being at the end of hell and approaching pure, deep hell. there is no turning back.
map 30 of course reminds me of the worst place one could ever be.. I like the thought of the skulls spawning and the place growing more evil as well as the telefrag possibility - I wish map 30 had more instakill opportunities against the player.

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no particular order

Best
E1M2
E1M5
E1M7
E1M8
E2M4
E2M8
MAP05
MAP18
MAP20
MAP30

Worst
E1M4
E1M9
E3M1
E3M2
MAP10
MAP23

Sodaholic said:

I know nothing about music theory, but why exactly is a 12 bar structure a bad thing?


It isn't, though I feel it was very overused in Doom.

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