999cop Posted May 27, 2002 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2009000/2009318.stm 0 Share this post Link to post
fodders Posted May 27, 2002 Yeh they say in 20 years they will be there, water is so important for generating fuel for return 0 Share this post Link to post
Zaldron Posted May 27, 2002 Does the presence of ice affect it at all? 0 Share this post Link to post
læmænt Posted May 27, 2002 No, the presence of ice doesn't affect the fact that it's impossible to build a military base on phobos in any way. 0 Share this post Link to post
Sharessa Posted May 27, 2002 My guess is that the oceans froze, then just sat there so long that they collected dust. 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 Lament said:No, the presence of ice doesn't affect the fact that it's impossible to build a military base on phobos in any way. It's not impossible to build a military base on Phobos. It'd be impossible to have an atmosphere and Earth-like gravity there though. 0 Share this post Link to post
DooMBoy Posted May 27, 2002 Which is why, when playing Doom shareware or Ultimate Doom with Legacy, I always turn the gravity down a few notches. I mean, Phobos AND Deimos are fucking rocks for cryin' out loud that managed to get pulled into Mars' gravity eons ago. Earth-like gravity is simply ridiculous on a Martian Lunar base of any kind. 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 DooMBoy said:Which is why, when playing Doom shareware or Ultimate Doom with Legacy, I always turn the gravity down a few notches. I mean, Phobos AND Deimos are fucking rocks for cryin' out loud that managed to get pulled into Mars' gravity eons ago. Earth-like gravity is simply ridiculous on a Martian Lunar base of any kind. Not really. You could create artificially Earth-like gravity by placing a black hole in the middle of the moon or something :P 0 Share this post Link to post
MACVILE_WHORE Posted May 27, 2002 Its based in the future, remember that. 0 Share this post Link to post
darknation Posted May 27, 2002 Apparently phobos is in a decaying orbit... in a few million years it's gonna splatter itself all over the martian real estate. Now that would be something to see. 0 Share this post Link to post
deep Posted May 27, 2002 Fredrik said:Not really. You could create artificially Earth-like gravity by placing a black hole in the middle of the moon or something :P And it would remain in orbit? 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 deep said:And it would remain in orbit? Yes, if you placed a similar black hole inside Mars ;) 0 Share this post Link to post
DooMBoy Posted May 27, 2002 If you did that, not only Mars, Phobos and Deimos would get sucked, but Earth and the rest of the planets, meteroids, asteroids, UFOs, and moons would get sucked in, not to mention the sun itself. And that would mean no Doom. 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 If you did that, not only Mars, Phobos and Deimos would get sucked, but Earth and the rest of the planets, meteroids, asteroids, UFOs, and moons would get sucked in, not to mention the sun itself.Not necessarily. A black hole with the mass of Earth could be contained safely within a planet core, I bet.And that would mean no Doom.Uhh.. that, if ANYTHING, would be Doom :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Sephiroth Posted May 27, 2002 even UFO's... cool. i dont see why anyone would put a military base on phobos. also isnt doom3's story gonna be on mars 0 Share this post Link to post
Weedster Posted May 27, 2002 Zaldron said:Does the presence of ice affect it at all? I'm asking the same question right now; since when did facts influence gameplay? It's a fictional story, so who cares? 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 Mwahahah! The end has come for he who sought double identity! 0 Share this post Link to post
RRROOOAAARRR Posted May 27, 2002 A black hole with the mass of Earth would only last about 500 years anyway, due to evaporation; but it would have exactly the same gravity well as Earth. Put an Earth-mass black hole in Earth's orbit in Earth's place, and you get no orbital perturbation of other bodies at all, since the overall gravitational effects are the same. 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 Melanomous said:Story? When did it have one in the first place? Don't ever start with novels. There was one in the manual that came with the game. One page, too. 0 Share this post Link to post
darknation Posted May 27, 2002 the_Danarchist said:ROFL His last post ever... Is this guy 100% positive crendo? 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 darknation said:Is this guy 100% positive crendo? Yes 0 Share this post Link to post
Sharessa Posted May 27, 2002 darknation said:Is this guy 100% positive crendo? Yep, but it seems he has returned... EDIT: oh look, and he's banned again... 0 Share this post Link to post
Kid Airbag Posted May 27, 2002 darknation said:Is this guy 100% positive crendo? Yes. 0 Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted May 27, 2002 Lament said:No, the presence of ice doesn't affect the fact that it's impossible to build a military base on phobos in any way. That's probably one reason for id to retell the Doom story in Doom 3 and set it on Mars itself. 0 Share this post Link to post
pritch Posted May 27, 2002 yeah the artificial gravity and atmosphere are real bullshit science issues, whereas the main theme of hellspawn from another dimension goes without saying.. :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 27, 2002 Terraforming Phobos and Deimos is bullshit, terraforming Mars is however not. 0 Share this post Link to post
mmnpsrsoskl Posted May 28, 2002 DooMBoy said:If you did that, not only Mars, Phobos and Deimos would get sucked, but Earth and the rest of the planets, meteroids, asteroids, UFOs, and moons would get sucked in, not to mention the sun itself. And that would mean no Doom. Uh, everyone, DooMBoy is right. (oxymoron) (maybe) A black hole is a star with a mass so great that the gravitational pull of it is so frigging high that not even light can escape from it. Der. 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted May 28, 2002 Cren/BannedCan't people get over the past and spare forgiveness? 0 Share this post Link to post