Never_Again Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Quote The Unofficial Master Levels For DOOM II FAQ sez: Maximum DOOM 201 plus 1,629 makes 1,830 Maximum wads and the box says 3,000 levels. Are there actually 3,000 levels? Be my guest and count 'em! Somebody had to do it, sooner or later. DOOM1 WADs: 407 DOOM2 WADs: 3062* Heretic WADs: 18** ------------------ total: 3487 * - includes ExMx entries and duplicates ** - uses the filenames listed in the FAQ So, after all these years you can finally sleep soundly: the box didn't lie, there are 3,000 levels. edit: a recount brings a slight revision - see this post. Edited October 30, 2022 by Never_Again : recount 4 Share this post Link to post
Zed Posted May 18, 2015 Wad Archive already does something similar with each disc they list. Curiously, they also say the total amount is 1,830 (with 18 duplicates). I wonder why this happens, probably there's more than one version of Maximum Doom? I mean, I can understand a mistake ranging in a dozen wads, probably a little more, but a difference of more than 1,500? How is that possible? 0 Share this post Link to post
AD_79 Posted May 18, 2015 Zed said:Wad Archive already does something similar with each disc they list. Curiously, they also say the total amount is 1,830 (with 18 duplicates). I wonder why this happens, probably there's more than one version of Maximum Doom? I mean, I can understand a mistake ranging in a dozen wads, probably a little more, but a difference of more than 1,500? How is that possible? 1830 wads, 3000+ maps. 1 Share this post Link to post
nxGangrel Posted May 18, 2015 AD_79 said:1830 wads, 3000+ maps. Doom fun for life. All day, everyday. 1 Share this post Link to post
Zed Posted May 18, 2015 AD_79 said:1830 wads, 3000+ maps. Oh shit, you're right. 0 Share this post Link to post
betabox Posted May 18, 2015 nxGangrel said:Doom fun for life. All day, everyday. More like for a summer. Then I tried doing that with the Demon Gate Mega Collection, what a mistake. Can you say burnout? 0 Share this post Link to post
Quasar Posted May 19, 2015 Tarnsman played through the entire thing on twitch :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Obsidian Posted May 19, 2015 Quasar said:Tarnsman played through the entire thing on twitch :P And now consequently hates any word that sounds similar to the word "maze". :D 3 Share this post Link to post
nxGangrel Posted May 19, 2015 buttspit said:More like for a summer. Then I tried doing that with the Demon Gate Mega Collection, what a mistake. Can you say burnout? Well now... 0 Share this post Link to post
betabox Posted May 19, 2015 Quasar said:Tarnsman played through the entire thing on twitch :P Perhaps I had a bit of bias when playing the compilation since I was somehow pretty motivated to trudge through the whole thing. It could have been the notion that it was an officially released Goliath of crap. There were some enjoyable maps, at least; maybe Tarnsman played some, too. Just don't go for something like 6000 levels! 0 Share this post Link to post
Kes Gaming YT Posted September 20, 2020 On 5/18/2015 at 8:29 PM, Quasar said: Tarnsman played through the entire thing on twitch :P I hate to be "that guy", but I feel like Tarnsman gets too much credit. I mean, he didn't really play through the whole thing, just the Doom 2 section. Which is still incredibly impressive in itself, because that is still 3062 levels, but that means that there are still over 400 levels that he didn't play. 1 Share this post Link to post
Kes Gaming YT Posted April 22, 2021 On 5/18/2015 at 7:48 PM, betabox said: More like for a summer. Then I tried doing that with the Demon Gate Mega Collection, what a mistake. Can you say burnout? Out of curiosity, how did you deal with overlap? For example, when a level came up in Demon Gate, that you had already played through in Maximum Doom, did you still play it again, or did you skip it? 1 Share this post Link to post
Obsidian Posted April 22, 2021 Oh hey, didn't realize I was following this thread by accident. Cheers. 1 Share this post Link to post
betabox Posted May 9, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 11:23 PM, Kes Gaming YT said: Out of curiosity, how did you deal with overlap? For example, when a level came up in Demon Gate, that you had already played through in Maximum Doom, did you still play it again, or did you skip it? Sorry, late reply. I didn't get far in the 6000 Demon Gate compilation, I think just doing all that in short succession killed everything. Interestingly, despite going through 3000+ levels, repeats/matches/variants were very easy to recognize. Just skipped those 3 Share this post Link to post
Kes Gaming YT Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/9/2021 at 2:45 PM, betabox said: Sorry, late reply. I didn't get far in the 6000 Demon Gate compilation, I think just doing all that in short succession killed everything. Interestingly, despite going through 3000+ levels, repeats/matches/variants were very easy to recognize. Just skipped those Good to know, thanks for the reply! Likewise, I've been skipping the repeats, and there are a lot! Some maps showing up 3,4, even 8 times in different compilations WADs and whatnot. 2 Share this post Link to post
Korozive Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/18/2015 at 4:48 PM, betabox said: More like for a summer. Then I tried doing that with the Demon Gate Mega Collection, what a mistake. Can you say burnout? What is this "Demon Gate" you speak of? 1 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) A shovelware disc with a lot of wads that are mostly made by college students who were just tinkering with an editor out of curiosity (which describes most 1994 wads). Very few of the wads are playable, even fewer are actually decent. 5 Share this post Link to post
betabox Posted May 13, 2021 Customary shoutout to Greyghost (still hope to get closure) Demon Gate is a small group/set of shovelware discs. Doomkid summarized it pretty well. There are a few variations, Demon Gate (600 maps), Demon Gate 666 (take a guess), Demon Gate Mega Collection (6000). There's even a Demon Gate for Mac, also 600 maps. 1 Share this post Link to post
Never_Again Posted October 30, 2022 The Talk page for the Maximum DOOM entry on the Doom Wiki prompted me to revisit this thread and revise the numbers slightly. You can read my post there for details including complete lists of all level entries and a list of duplicate files. The bottom line is that the total level count is 3486, or 3461 if we leave out the identical files with different filenames. 1 Share this post Link to post