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NoirSuede

Is it okay to like Sonic ?

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Everyone knows that Sonic is probably the 4th most hated gaming thing ever (right behind EA, Call Of Duty, and Cliffy.B), but I actually really like Sonic (for some nebulous reason that i won't tell). Whenever i see someone claim that Sonic sucks on anything, I usually just ignore it and leave, but now it feels like the pressure's really building up, and it feels like i'm a big idiot for liking Sonic in the first place.

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No one can tell you who you can like or dislike. If you like Sonic be happy with it. Don't let anyone sour it for you but Sonic himself.

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Sonic's appeal wore thin around the late 90's. Sega realized this, so they built a stupid, anime storyline for him and his friends to star in. That was Sonic Adventure, the first of many nails in the blue blur's coffin.

People like to whinge about Sonic 06, but Adventure 1 and 2 had every problem 06 had.

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I own all of the Sonic games on a lot of systems. I always preferred Mario :-)

About people hating EA, Nintendo, UBIsoft, Activision and other companies, its weird millions of games sold, yet people hate the companies. Ever hear of "so bad its good?" Maybe there's "so good its bad." Seems like every company with a public stock offering gets hated.

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The Sonic the Hedgehog games are really good and I've never heard of anyone having a problem with them. Sounds deeply weird to me.

The most that might be said is that the Megadrive/Genesis originals from the '90s are still the best and haven't really been topped by the ones that have followed on newer consoles.

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fraggle said:

The Sonic the Hedgehog games are really good and I've never heard of anyone having a problem with them. Sounds deeply weird to me.



They make some reasonable points. But despite their problems, I'll always be a big fan of the old school Sonic games.

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There is a lot of difference between the classic sonic and the teenager-yo-rad-hardcoremusic one. I don't know anyone who have problems with the megadrive franchise.

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Just realize that anything post Sonic Jam up to Unleashed is either janky as fuck, complete garbage, or a handheld spinoff. Unleashed is okay. Colors is good but the writing tries too hard to be funny and self-aware. Sonic 4 is a laughably cheap and mediocre cash-in. Generations is the best game in the past 15 or so years. Lost World was good ideas with bad execution and a plot that explains nothing about anything.

And then Boom happened and ruined any respect the company had gathered with Generations.

So far the best non-generations non-music non-sanic thing the series has spawned in the past 15 years is the Twitter account now that it's gone completely apeshit and started posting KNUCKLES&KNUCKLES&KNUCKLES memes.

But anyone that says 1-3, K, & CD are bad are full of shit and total dudebros.

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With games as Sonic, Mario, Zelda, street fighter, or many Japanese games i am always amazed at how some people are able to include at least one culturaly insensitive comment, or near racist remark about japanese games and media which they enjoy.... its just so weird that it gets funny. eg ; crappy anime, werid japanese stuff, etc.

Why would it ever be wrong to like a game, movie, or show... which you like ?

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Although the series has been up and down, I always figured more of the "hate" stemmed for the fandom, as opposed to the games themselves. I've only played the originals and colors, and gameplay wise they were fun, so I don't have much experience, I suppose.

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NoirSuede said:

Everyone knows that Sonic is probably the 4th most hated gaming thing ever (right behind EA, Call Of Duty, and Cliffy.B)


Cliff Bleszinski? The Unreal Tournament guy? What did he do? I feel like I missed something there.

Sonic's been little but goofy meme fodder for several years because of an embarassing string of rushed releases by a company which ignored playtester complaints and just wants quick bucks. /thread.

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3_nights said:

Cliff Bleszinski? The Unreal Tournament guy? What did he do?



Took a big hefty shit all over the Unreal Tournament franchise and replaced it with Gears of War. That's what.

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I PLAYED 2 HOURS OF SONIC 06 AND IT WAS FUN IN A "HEY LET'S SEE HOW BAD THIS CAN GET" WAY

Also Freedom Planet is a better Sonic game than pretty much all the recent Sonic games.

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I Have no reason to hate Sonic games, But i feel a bit ashamed of telling that to anyone , Expecting people to tell things like "Haha what a child", "Look at the Mirror", " A Big dude like you still playing games like Sonic ?"

Jaxxoon R said:

Pansy. One does not simply escape being Snoic'd.

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StevieCybernetik said:

Took a big hefty shit all over the Unreal Tournament franchise and replaced it with Gears of War. That's what.


Money was made. Now fans get to make the new Unreal Tournament like TF2!

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AD_79 said:

Also Freedom Planet is a better Sonic game than pretty much all the recent Sonic games.


This is also probably true, though with my limited SOnic experience, I think I'd say FP is even better than the original Sonic. Sonic 1 didn't give you a motorcycle.

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The Megadrive/Genesis games are classics and always will be.

Everything and anything after that... eeeehhhhhh IDGAF and the more recent ones generally end up being regarded as an experience worse than barefoot stepping in dogshit.

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The only thing i disliked in Modern sonic games was probably the New boost ability .

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problem isn't with the games, it's with the fanbase. Sonic seems to be a furry autism magnet and frankly I would rather not be associated with furry autists.

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Breezeep said:

I'm surprised no one mentioned the Sonic Fandom yet.


I think I mentioned it. However, it's sort of horrifying when you can google "'Your Name' the Hedgehog" and find some awful crayon drawing with your name attached to it.

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No it's okay to like sonic, people like what they like and that's what matters. Even though most of the modern sonic games have been mediocre to down right awful to one of the worst games ever made (sonic 06, sonic boom); there are some good sonic games and really, it's all opinionated. I heard once someone absolutely loved Sonic 06', hard to believe, but to each their own.

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Masterfully ignoring the Doom Fandom which is generating Doom monster pornography gifs, childish drawings seemingly made by adults, weird troll maps, Selfie mods, DoomGuy pinups, Rape stories, and worse....

Yeah... i think there is absolutely nothing wrong with ignoring an "online or offline" fanbase and directly liking a game.

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FireFish said:

Masterfully ignoring the Doom Fandom which is generating Doom monster pornography gifs, childish drawings seemingly made by adults, weird troll maps, Selfie mods, DoomGuy pinups, Rape stories, and worse....

Yeah... i think there is absolutely nothing wrong with ignoring an "online or offline" fanbase and directly liking a game.


Agreed. One does not have to be good or tasteful when creating art. One person's awful is another person's "so bad its good."

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So if the Sonic games are so universally hated now, how can Sonic get back on track? 2D side scroller? Drop everything but Sonic? Keep reliving Green Hill Zone over and over? Keep using the same engine rather than starting from scratch over and over again?

Can side-scrollers still make money if they're not Mario? I heard the last Rayman side-scroller did so poorly it dropped UBIsoft's stock.

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Don't let a fandom ruin what you like. I personally don't like Sonic but if you're not a complete fuckhead about it in such a way comparable to SammyClassicSonicFan then I don't really care what you like. Opinions are opinions and always will be. Fuck yall I'm off to play cowadoody bloopers 4

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