Linguica Posted December 13, 2001 WTF? Remember, send in those Doom pics! (img) 0 Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted December 13, 2001 I love how the old posts stick around until they get overwritten. 0 Share this post Link to post
stphrz Posted December 13, 2001 The pic that inspired the cacodemon I presume? 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom Posted December 13, 2001 i had the book with that pic as a cover (ad&d monster manual) - never made the relation myself, but, it has to have influenced the caco the id guys played d&d, and they even said it influenced doom; there's a spherical one-eyed monster in that game called 'beholder,' that, plus this drawing, certainly have a lot to do with how the caco ended up looking cool find 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom Posted December 13, 2001 not 'monster manual' it was the 'manual of the planes' 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted December 13, 2001 I agree with Ling; prolly the other way around. The head seems kinda outta place, but the pic is still cool as hell! RUN DUDE RUN!!! 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom Posted December 13, 2001 nope, as the book this painting was for was released in the late 80s 0 Share this post Link to post
Adam Hegyi Posted December 13, 2001 Uhm. This is a painting by Jeff Easley and appears in the AD&D 2nd Edition Player's Handbook (I have it around). AD&D 2nd Edition was published in 1989. Proof: http://dfxwebs.com/Artists/Easley/gem_je1_card045.jpg http://www.aumania.it/fa/easley/066.jpg 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom Posted December 13, 2001 it may have appeared as artwork in the 2nd Ed PH, but its first appearance (1987?) was as the cover of the book i mentioned (one of the last hardcover rules for the 1st edition), which means the pic is a LOT older than doom 0 Share this post Link to post
Adam Hegyi Posted December 13, 2001 Could be, I don't own a MM, and my PHB is being borrowed atm so I can't check. It's been a while I last played AD&D, too. Nevertheless, it's at least 10 years old and definately by Jeff Easley. 0 Share this post Link to post
Adam Hegyi Posted December 13, 2001 Certainly the caco ended up as a crossover between this picture (look) and the beholder (floating ball with one eye). 0 Share this post Link to post
Anarkavre Posted December 13, 2001 Here is information and a picture of the real d&d cover. http://www.flash.net/~brenfrow/ad/planes.htm 0 Share this post Link to post
Adam Hegyi Posted December 13, 2001 Very cool, for those who wonder about the beholder, here it is in the middle: http://www.flash.net/~brenfrow/ad/mm2nd.jpg I have to say, the beholder kicks the cacodemon's ass by a mile :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Anarkavre Posted December 13, 2001 The Beholder looks similar to a Pain Elemental. Doom would make a great ad&d game. 0 Share this post Link to post
Opulent Posted December 13, 2001 memories... I started playing with the Basic Set. <gulp> I remember when the monster manual came out... I _stopped_ playing before the expert set was made... god, I'm old. =P 0 Share this post Link to post
Guest DooMetallicA Posted December 13, 2001 man, now THAT would be a cool endboss for one of the episodes of (the origiginal) Doom3. I hope there are multiple episodes... 0 Share this post Link to post
Guest Johnny Magnum Posted December 13, 2001 DamN! that should be a demon boss in the NeW DooM. Alteast i think so. 0 Share this post Link to post
Erik Posted December 13, 2001 Heh, I think I got almost every Ad&d 2nd edition book there is to buy. Anyway, This potd rocks 0 Share this post Link to post
Guest DooMetallicA Posted December 13, 2001 D&D blows. Vampire: The Masquerade kicks ass. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bloodshedder Posted December 13, 2001 I'm sure for anyone who's never seen the Cacodemon before, that picture looks fine (well, as fine as something like that could look). But for those of us who HAVE seen the Caco, it looks like one, just with arms and legs attached. Well, it just looks sort of odd to me. 0 Share this post Link to post
Guest DooMetallicA Posted December 13, 2001 Thats what Caco's looked like before their heads were dissattached from their bodies...but why do they fly??? oh welll.. Caco = ugly Man = ...man Cacod-man and ugly man Cacodeman...its not human! 0 Share this post Link to post
Arioch Posted December 13, 2001 Dominate 2: Mesmerize ... 5 roll successes I command you to ... crow like a cock every morning at sunrise 0 Share this post Link to post
stphrz Posted December 13, 2001 I once read in an interview with John Romero that the guys at id used to play a lot of D&D in the early days. The monsters in Doom clearly got a lot of their inspiration from the monsters in D&D. Total originality is an extremely rare thing. If it exists at all. 0 Share this post Link to post
Guest Excalibur_Z Posted December 13, 2001 Exactly right. Actually when I saw the thumbnail I thought "what the, that just looks like the Cacodemon sprite pasted onto some weird image" but the full picture meshes much better =) 0 Share this post Link to post
Hyena Posted December 13, 2001 I've seen the "beholder" before. In "Big Trouble in Little China" I wonder if this monster dates back to chinese or otherwise ancient mythology. 0 Share this post Link to post