IvyLyons Posted December 12, 2015 there some missed chances for drops, i feel, such as arachnotrons providing energy packs; has this crossed many minds? 0 Share this post Link to post
Lila Feuer Posted December 12, 2015 Nope, outside of former human enemies none of the demons drop anything. 0 Share this post Link to post
TwinBeast Posted December 12, 2015 One time an arachnotron dropped on me and gave me a surprise plasmassage. 0 Share this post Link to post
Wereknight Posted December 12, 2015 Well if arachnotron was UAC creation - yeah, he should drop sometning. But, meeh, those guys are demons... 0 Share this post Link to post
Clonehunter Posted December 12, 2015 I think chaingunners should drop backpacks instead of chainguns. Chainguns are common to find and ammo is often ubiquitous anyways. A mix bag would be more useful. 0 Share this post Link to post
CyberDemonEmpress Posted December 12, 2015 They don't use the same weapons as the plasma gun though.. So I would think the energy cells the arachontron use wouldn't be compatible anyway. 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted December 12, 2015 Clonehunter said:A mix bag would be more useful. 0 Share this post Link to post
riki2321 Posted December 12, 2015 i dont understand, can anyone tell me what he said? 0 Share this post Link to post
Koko Ricky Posted December 12, 2015 That guy has been doing the YouTube thing for 9 years and still hasn't learned to write, act, shoot or edit beyond amateur hour. 0 Share this post Link to post
The Civ Posted December 12, 2015 GoatLord said:That guy has been doing the YouTube thing for 9 years and still hasn't learned to write, act, shoot or edit beyond amateur hour. There are so many things wrong with this statement, I don't know where to begin. 0 Share this post Link to post
Azuruish Posted December 14, 2015 Arachnotron must drop eggs for reproduction. 0 Share this post Link to post
Clonehunter Posted December 14, 2015 GoatLord said:That guy has been doing the YouTube thing for 9 years and still hasn't learned to write, act, shoot or edit beyond amateur hour. Don't you already have a thread specifically built for this complaint? 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted December 14, 2015 Well, to answer the OP, the Spider Mastermind doesn't drop boxes of shotguns or auto shotguns, nor does the Cyberdemon drop rocket launchers or boxes of rockets, despite them using solid, human(?)-made weaponry. Dropping ammo and/or weapons seems to be something only zombies/former humans do, not demons. Let's not enter into how they drop a finite amount of ammo while having infinite ammo themselves... 0 Share this post Link to post
RjY Posted December 14, 2015 Clonehunter said:I think chaingunners should drop backpacks instead of chainguns. Chainguns are common to find and ammo is often ubiquitous anyways. A mix bag would be more useful. Sometimes. However just as often, your first chaingun comes from a zombie drop. For pistol-start players, it can be essential. 0 Share this post Link to post
baja blast rd. Posted December 14, 2015 The fewer the drops, the better. It's hard to spam shotgunners without compromising the ammo balance in maps with a SSG available precisely because they drop valuable shells. At least the chaingunner drops about 100 HP of damage potential, for a weapon that's less useful against mid-tier opposition anyway. The arachnotron would be a lot less flexible if it dropped 20 plasma cells. Chaingunners dropping backpacks is nuts. 0 Share this post Link to post
Rayziik Posted December 14, 2015 rdwpa said:The fewer the drops, the better. It's hard to spam shotgunners without compromising the ammo balance in maps with a SSG available precisely because they drop valuable ... I usually plan my ammo allocation by including a SGguy as a "shells". I always thought it created a better justification for the chaingun to be a semi-valuable pickup, allowing you to mow down a horde for shells in order to take on heavy units with the SSG, lest you waste your shells killing the SGguys instead. Although you're right about the CGs, the ammo they drop is basically what it took to kill them, so they balance out well. 0 Share this post Link to post
TwinBeast Posted December 14, 2015 Arachnotron would drop 10 cells if it followed the dropped item logic cutting the normal amount in half. If you used cells to kill them, eventually you'd run out of cells. 0 Share this post Link to post
Face23785 Posted December 15, 2015 Rayzik said:I usually plan my ammo allocation by including a SGguy as a "shells". I always thought it created a better justification for the chaingun to be a semi-valuable pickup, allowing you to mow down a horde for shells in order to take on heavy units with the SSG, lest you waste your shells killing the SGguys instead. Although you're right about the CGs, the ammo they drop is basically what it took to kill them, so they balance out well. Personally I don't consider it wasteful to kill shotgunners with the shotgun. If there's one you use one shell and get four, net gain of three. If there's a group, you can take out several with one blast from the SSG, or better yet if you have the health and some space to work with so you're not getting slaughtered you can get them to take each other out and get free shells. Either way, unless you're absolutely horrid with the shotgun, you're always gonna gain shells no matter what you kill them with. I tend to save the chaingun for keeping Pain Elementals from spawning Lost Souls, or for cleanup work when the RNG fucks me. 0 Share this post Link to post
BaronOfStuff Posted December 15, 2015 GoatLord said:That guy has been doing the YouTube thing for 9 years and still hasn't learned to write, act, shoot or edit beyond amateur hour. Once again your custom title shines true. 0 Share this post Link to post
Aaron Blain Posted December 15, 2015 I usually think it's a sign of poor game design when the player has to be given increasing incentives to kill baddies, beyond the need to remove them from play. 0 Share this post Link to post
SYS Posted December 15, 2015 GoatLord said:That guy has been doing the YouTube thing for 9 years and still hasn't learned to write, act, shoot or edit beyond amateur hour. LMFAO, so amateur he's made a career out of it. So salty and talking shit. You've boasted on here before about your "comedy youtube channel", please share your work so we can see how much better you are than AVGN at anything. 0 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted December 15, 2015 i had this really good idea for the new doom where all the demons dropped ammo like they were actually marines running around in demon suits oh wait 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted December 15, 2015 Doomkid said:i had this really good idea for the new doom where all the demons dropped ammo like they were actually marines running around in demon suits oh wait Doom: and then they were the Demons edition? 0 Share this post Link to post
ReFracture Posted December 17, 2015 Maes said:(AVGN Video) Curse youtube for allowing me to start other videos from the same embed... I think I just spent an hour watching AVGN. On topic: I never found it weird that the Arachnotron never dropped ammo simply because the plasma blasts are a different color.. I remember thinking as a kid that because of this it is a different weapon. 0 Share this post Link to post
Face23785 Posted December 17, 2015 ReFracture said:I never found it weird that the Arachnotron never dropped ammo simply because the plasma blasts are a different color.. I remember thinking as a kid that because of this it is a different weapon. You were a wise kid. Doesn't get a whole lot more obvious than this, yet somehow so many missed it. 0 Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted December 17, 2015 On the other hand, zombiemen rifles use the exact same clips used in...pistols? (Which also slot into the chaingun somewhere apparantly) 0 Share this post Link to post
Wereknight Posted December 17, 2015 Ragnor said:On the other hand, zombiemen rifles use the exact same clips used in...pistols? (Which also slot into the chaingun somewhere apparantly) [Badjoke]NATO standarts, sir[/badjoke] 0 Share this post Link to post
Face23785 Posted December 18, 2015 Ragnor said:On the other hand, zombiemen rifles use the exact same clips used in...pistols? (Which also slot into the chaingun somewhere apparantly) That's not very farfetched actually. Today we have revolvers that can fire .45LC rounds and .410 bore shotgun shells. 0 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted December 18, 2015 Face23785 said:You were a wise kid. Doesn't get a whole lot more obvious than this, yet somehow so many missed it. The BFG, which uses the same cells as the plasma, shoots a green ball that looks verrrrrrrry similar to the Arachnotron plasma! Not gonna lie, as a kid, I thought they were gonna drop cells for me, but it really doesn't matter much. Honestly it's a cool decorate/dehacked patch waiting to happen! 0 Share this post Link to post